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    Post  Liajntsuab 3rd February 2015, 12:55 pm

    Kab xovxwm nram no muab los tom SHRDO los hais txog ib pab Thaib hu nkauj tau thuam txog Hmoob tsis dadej thiab tsis ntxhua khaubncaws nyob rau Thaibteb. Thaum Hmoob pom tej no Hmoob ho xav licas? Puas paub tusiab rau txoj kev yus tsis muaj teb muaj chaw luag saib tsis taus xav ua licas thiab hais li cas los luag hais. Tej teebmeem no puas tsimnyog tusiab rau yus luag los YUS ROV TUSIAB RAU YUS TUSKHEEJ VIM TXOJ KEV YUS TSIS TXAWJ HLUB. Hmoob yuav tau xav kom txhij txhua seb yog vim dabtsi tiag rau qhov tsis yog ib lub tebchaws ntxub ntxaug yus xwb tiamsis yuav luag txhua lub tebchaws uas Hmoob nrog nyob yeej ntxub txhua. Tusiab ntau.

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    Post  koojziagkabzaug 3rd February 2015, 1:25 pm



    Kwv Liaj Ntsuab,

    Ua tsaug ntau uas nws muab qhov xov xwm nov tuaj rau peb pom.

    Ntawm kuv tus kheej mas thaum lub hauv paus, cov Hmoob Liab yuav los haum xeeb nrog Thaib, los tuav tes nrog Thaib tsim kev thaj yeeb rau lub teb chaws Thaib; twb yog Vaj Ntxwv Thaib ua tus xub mus nrog Hmoob nyob, nrog Hmoob tham, nrog Hmoob noj mov pem Hmoob tej zej zog yam twb tsis hais ua ntej kom Hmoob ho npaj txais tos, ho tau ua zaub ua mov kom tsimù nyog txais Huab Tais Thaib. Nws cia li mus, Hmoob ua tau li cas nrog Hmoob noj li ntawd; mus nrog tej me nyuam hmoob ntiv yaas ua si, yuav tsaus ntuj mam rov los tsev. Thaum nws yuav rov los tsev, nws nug rau Hmoob tias nej xav tau dab tsi? Ces Hmoob teb tias: "Peb xav kom peb tau npav Thaib." Ces rov los txog ntua xwb Huab tais Thaib tso lus kiag mus rau cov Tswv Nroog kom ua noav pab cas tuas rau Hmoob. Nais Am pheu thiaj tuaj hais rau Hmoob tias cas nej tseem tsis hais kuv xwb es tseem yuav hais rau Vaj Ntxwv hais tuaj rau kuv thiab? Hmoob teb tias: peb kom koj ua, koj twb tsis ua ces Vaj Ntxwv nug peb peb kuj hais rau vaj ntxwv! Txij thaum Huab Tais Thaib nquag mus xyuas Hmoob ntawd ces Nws thiaj li faib liaj ia rau Hmoob, ua vaj ua tsev rau, muab twj taig, pam vov chaw pua, lauj kaub tais diav rau Hmoob ces Hmoob thiaj li tseg tsis ua koom tshas trau Thaib lawm. Thiab tsis tag li ntawd, Poj Vaj Thaib twb ua ib lub tsev muag Hmoob cov paj ntaub; kom cov poj niam hmoob txom nyem nyob yaj sab ua paj ntaub tuaj rau nws muag, mam them nyiaj rau lawv. Tsis tag li ntawd tseem tshuav lwm yam kev pab cuam ntxiv.

    Li no, tsis yog tias Peb haiv Hmoob yog ib haiv neeg nyob pos nti es Huab Tais Thaib tsis tau paub txog. Huab tais yeej lees paub Haiv Hmoob nyob hauv nws lub teb chaws lawm, li no tej xwm txheej no kuv xav tias yuav tsis txhob nrhiav kev kub ntxhov dab tsi, yuav tau hu sib koom ntoo xyom dawb mus taug kev ntawm Huab tais qhov rooj xwb cia Huab tais mam daws teeb meem mas thiaj li yuav poob sai. Huab Tais hais ib los xwb ces yeej tau lawm, vim luag xav txuag luag lub teb chaws, tsis xav kom poob rau kev tsov rog ntxiv.
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    Post  Kaubkimyaj 3rd February 2015, 2:20 pm

    Kwv Liajntsuab....

    Tej teebmeem no nws yeej nyob hauv cov neeg tiajnrag lub siab txhua tus, tabsis yog lawv tsis hais xwb. Nws yog kev thuam mob heev vim yog yus tsav neeg yeej nyob ze rawv ntawm luag txoj kev pom thiab xav. Hnub twg yus dawb huv lawm ces hnub ntawv yus muaj cai puv ntoob mas. Nws yog ib sob kev kawm kom Hmoob txawj nrog luag ua neej sib yoog nrog pejkum feem coob.


    Koojziagkabzaug....

    Koj cov lus yeej hais yog txaus lawm. Tiamsis ntawm Hmoob mus ua Thaib-liab ntawv los yog ib feem ntawm Tsoomfwv Thaib tus cwjpwm tuav kom Thaib-teb txhob poob mus ua Koomtsha xwb ov nawb. Tej no kuv paub zoo vim kuv muajfeem rub cov Hmoob Liab rov los koom Tsoomfwv Thaib ywjpheej. Kuv tseem yog ib tug tau txia ua Thaib-liab mus kawm kev txhimkho neeg Thaib yajsab.

    Nws yog Hmoob hauv Thaib-teb lub luag haujlwm yuav tsum taug qab thiab nqua thov kev ncaj ncees ntawm tsoom thawj coj haiv neeg/tebchaws Thaib, tabsis peb txhua tus Hmoob muaj feem/txwmsim pov-puag txhawb Hmoob lub npe kom ncha rau sab zoo.
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    Post  Liajntsuab 3rd February 2015, 6:05 pm

    koojziagkabzaug wrote:

    Kwv Liaj Ntsuab,

    Ua tsaug ntau uas nws muab qhov xov xwm nov tuaj rau peb pom.

    Ntawm kuv tus kheej mas thaum lub hauv paus, cov Hmoob Liab yuav los haum xeeb nrog Thaib, los tuav tes nrog Thaib tsim kev thaj yeeb rau lub teb chaws Thaib; twb yog Vaj Ntxwv Thaib ua tus xub mus nrog Hmoob nyob, nrog Hmoob tham, nrog Hmoob noj mov pem Hmoob tej zej zog yam twb tsis hais ua ntej kom Hmoob ho npaj txais tos, ho tau ua zaub ua mov kom tsimù nyog txais Huab Tais Thaib. Nws cia li mus, Hmoob ua tau li cas nrog Hmoob noj li ntawd; mus nrog tej me nyuam hmoob ntiv yaas ua si, yuav tsaus ntuj mam rov los tsev. Thaum nws yuav rov los tsev, nws nug rau Hmoob tias nej xav tau dab tsi? Ces Hmoob teb tias: "Peb xav kom peb tau npav Thaib." Ces rov los txog ntua xwb Huab tais Thaib tso lus kiag mus rau cov Tswv Nroog kom ua noav pab cas tuas rau Hmoob. Nais Am pheu thiaj tuaj hais rau Hmoob tias cas nej tseem tsis hais kuv xwb es tseem yuav hais rau Vaj Ntxwv hais tuaj rau kuv thiab? Hmoob teb tias: peb kom koj ua, koj twb tsis ua ces Vaj Ntxwv nug peb peb kuj hais rau vaj ntxwv! Txij thaum Huab Tais Thaib nquag mus xyuas Hmoob ntawd ces Nws thiaj li faib liaj ia rau Hmoob, ua vaj ua tsev rau, muab twj taig, pam vov chaw pua, lauj kaub tais diav rau Hmoob ces Hmoob thiaj li tseg tsis ua koom tshas trau Thaib lawm. Thiab tsis tag li ntawd, Poj Vaj Thaib twb ua ib lub tsev muag Hmoob cov paj ntaub; kom cov poj niam hmoob txom nyem nyob yaj sab ua paj ntaub tuaj rau nws muag, mam them nyiaj rau lawv. Tsis tag li ntawd tseem tshuav lwm yam kev pab cuam ntxiv.

    Li no, tsis yog tias Peb haiv Hmoob yog ib haiv neeg nyob pos nti es Huab Tais Thaib tsis tau paub txog. Huab tais yeej lees paub Haiv Hmoob nyob hauv nws lub teb chaws lawm, li no tej xwm txheej no kuv xav tias yuav tsis txhob nrhiav kev kub ntxhov dab tsi, yuav tau hu sib koom ntoo xyom dawb mus taug kev ntawm Huab tais qhov rooj xwb cia Huab tais mam daws teeb meem mas thiaj li yuav poob sai. Huab Tais hais ib los xwb ces yeej tau lawm, vim luag xav txuag luag lub teb chaws, tsis xav kom poob rau kev tsov rog ntxiv.

    Niamtij Koojziagkabzaug,

    Zoo lus kawg os nawb. Tej no yuav tsis yog Nomtswv muaj feem cuam nws tsuas yog tej neeg tsis paub qabhau thiab cov uas ntxub ntxaug haivneeg tsawg li peb Hmoob xwb. Txawm li ntawd los peb yuav nyob twjywm tsis tau, yuav tsum ua ib yam dabtsi tshwmsim kom Tsoomneeg Thaib paub tias peb txawm tsis muaj tebchaws es koom nrog lawv nyob lawv daim av xwb los peb Hmoob yeej nrog lawv thaiv tsovrog zoo nkaus li Hmoob yeej yog Neeg Thaib uas xws li peb Hmoob twb tau tag simneej yav dhau los rau lub tebchaws Thaib lawm.

    Nimno Huabtais Thaib laus heev lawm xyov nws feeb puas meej thiab hais puas tau ib los tseemceeb rau Tsoomneeg Thaib kom lawv saib taus Hmoob, qhov no yog ib qhov khib siab kawg uas thaum nws tag lub neej lawm ntshe lub tebchaws Thaib yuav muaj kev kub ntxhov ntau yam lau!!! Cia peb mam li ho mloog mus txiv seb tej Thawj coj Hmoob ho puas ua dabtsi rau tej teebmeem no.

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    Post  Liajntsuab 3rd February 2015, 6:24 pm

    Kaubkimyaj wrote: Kwv Liajntsuab....

    Tej teebmeem no nws yeej nyob hauv cov neeg tiajnrag lub siab txhua tus, tabsis yog lawv tsis hais xwb.  Nws yog kev thuam mob heev vim yog yus tsav neeg yeej nyob ze rawv ntawm luag txoj kev pom thiab xav.  Hnub twg yus dawb huv lawm ces hnub ntawv yus muaj cai puv ntoob mas.  Nws yog ib sob kev kawm kom Hmoob txawj nrog luag ua neej sib yoog nrog pejkum feem coob.


    Koojziagkabzaug....

    Koj cov lus yeej hais yog txaus lawm.  Tiamsis ntawm Hmoob mus ua Thaib-liab ntawv los yog ib feem ntawm Tsoomfwv Thaib tus cwjpwm tuav kom Thaib-teb txhob poob mus ua Koomtsha xwb ov nawb.  Tej no kuv paub zoo vim kuv muajfeem rub cov Hmoob Liab rov los koom Tsoomfwv Thaib ywjpheej.  Kuv tseem yog ib tug tau txia ua Thaib-liab mus kawm kev txhimkho neeg Thaib yajsab.

    Nws yog Hmoob hauv Thaib-teb lub luag haujlwm yuav tsum taug qab thiab nqua thov kev ncaj ncees ntawm tsoom thawj coj haiv neeg/tebchaws Thaib, tabsis peb txhua tus Hmoob muaj feem/txwmsim pov-puag txhawb Hmoob lub npe kom ncha rau sab zoo.

    Tijlaug Kaubkimyaj,

    Kuv los xav ib yam li koj hais thiab. Tsimnyog kawg nkaus Tsoom Hmoob Thaib yuav tsum txawj sib hlub thiab tsis txhob pheej yuav sib foob, sib tua, cuamkhaum, ua luam txhaum cai thiab ua lwm yam phem los txov thiab los txo cov kwvtij Hmoob Thaib lub meejmom li yav dhau los. Txoj kev nyiam huv thiab hnav khaub ncaws rau khau yuav tsum hnav kom phim luag tsavneeg tsis txhob tias ua li niajhnub no peb mus pom thiab yav dhau los lawv mus nram nroog los yog nyob nram nroog yav saud yog hnav tsho Hmoob hos yav hauv yog ris tsho Nplog thiab rau khau khiab/pliab xwb. Feem ntau hnav tsoos tsho li no yog cov Txivneej Hmoob 80 percent/feem 100. Dhau li lawv tej tsev los yuav tsum nyiam huv, noj mov kom muaj phaj tsum tsis yog tias txawb laujkaub li pub npua hauv av noj xwb thiab. Yog yuav muab cov kwvtij Hmoob Thaib lub neej uas xav kom lawv pauv ntawd coj los tham mas hais tsis paub tas. Vim tej kuv hais los no lau thiaj li ua rau luag saib tsis taus yus tsav neeg Hmoob nyob tojsiab.

    Tej yam kuv hais los saum toj no peb cov kwvtij Hmoob Thaib cov pauv kev coj li Hmoob Nplog kev nyiam huv yog feem tsawg hos feem coob yeej tseem coj tsis txawv yav thaum ub. Kuv twb muab tham ib zaug nyob rau tom Hmongza.com lawm tias lub vaj paj nyob ua tshiab uas loj loj nyob hauv Chiang Mai lawv ua ib cov tsev los ua pivtxwv rau txhuam haivneeg nyob Thaibteb, Hmoob lub yog lub uas phem tshaj, qhov no los twb yog kev ntxub ntxaug ib yam nkaus thiab.




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    Post  Liajntsuab 4th February 2015, 11:59 am

    Xovxwm tawm tshiab hnub no los tom SHRDO pab Thaib tub paj nruag tus Thawj Coj tau los lees thiab thov txim tsoom sawvdaws. Nws tau hais ntau yam zoo thiab qhov tseeb tiag nws hais tias NWS YEEJ NYIAM HMOOB COV TSOOS TSHO THIAB NWS TAU SIV LOS LAWM 33 LUB XYOO, YOG TSIS MUAJ HMOOB COV TSOOS TSHO YUAV TSIS MUAJ NWS PAB PAWG LUANG LES HNUB NO.

    Nej seb luag tej neeg txawj ntse luag twb siv yus tej khaub ncaws los nrhiav noj tau 33 lub xyoo los tseem mom yus txheej thiab saib tsis taus yus tsav neeg. Yog cov uas twb tsis tau siv Hmoob tej txuj thiab teejtug zoo li no mas luag tseem yuav haj yam ntxub yus. Yog vim li no Hmoob thiaj li pheej muaj los paj lug hais tias NPLOOJ TSAWB TSIS YOG NPUAG MAB SUAV TSIS YOG YUS LI KWV LUAG. Ua neej nyob yus tsis muaj daim av, luag yeej saib tsis taus yus tsavneeg tiag. Yam luag ntshaw yus ces xav SIV YUS XWB TSIS YOG HLUB, tsis hais nyob lub tebchaws twg.

    Vam tias tej no yog ib qhov kev kawm rau yus tsavneeg kom txhob pw tsaugzog thiab ruamuag tig los sib hlub kom Hmoob muaj thiaj li muaj lub neej nrog luag ua nyob rau lub neej yav pem suab.


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    Post  koojziagkabzaug 4th February 2015, 12:28 pm

    Kaubkimyaj wrote: Kwv Liajntsuab....

    Tej teebmeem no nws yeej nyob hauv cov neeg tiajnrag lub siab txhua tus, tabsis yog lawv tsis hais xwb.  Nws yog kev thuam mob heev vim yog yus tsav neeg yeej nyob ze rawv ntawm luag txoj kev pom thiab xav.  Hnub twg yus dawb huv lawm ces hnub ntawv yus muaj cai puv ntoob mas.  Nws yog ib sob kev kawm kom Hmoob txawj nrog luag ua neej sib yoog nrog pejkum feem coob.


    Koojziagkabzaug....

    Koj cov lus yeej hais yog txaus lawm.  Tiamsis ntawm Hmoob mus ua Thaib-liab ntawv los yog ib feem ntawm Tsoomfwv Thaib tus cwjpwm tuav kom Thaib-teb txhob poob mus ua Koomtsha xwb ov nawb.  Tej no kuv paub zoo vim kuv muajfeem rub cov Hmoob Liab rov los koom Tsoomfwv Thaib ywjpheej.  Kuv tseem yog ib tug tau txia ua Thaib-liab mus kawm kev txhimkho neeg Thaib yajsab.

    Nws yog Hmoob hauv Thaib-teb lub luag haujlwm yuav tsum taug qab thiab nqua thov kev ncaj ncees ntawm tsoom thawj coj haiv neeg/tebchaws Thaib, tabsis peb txhua tus Hmoob muaj feem/txwmsim pov-puag txhawb Hmoob lub npe kom ncha rau sab zoo.

    Tij laug Kauv Kim Yaj,

    Vaj Ntxwv Thaib twb tuaj yeem txo hwj chim mus nrog me nyuam hmoob ntiv yaas pem yaj sab kom dib tau Hmoob los seej txhim kev thaj yeeb rau lub teb chaws Thaib. Nyob Thaib teb, zoo li Sasana Phouth (Pha Phouth) thiab Vaj Ntxwv yog ob qho uas loj tshaj hauv lub teb chaws. Txhua lub tsev, txhua qhov chaw tseem ceeb, tej tsev hauj lwm los yog tsev lag luam puav leej muaj Huab Tais daim duab; ua li cov tub nkauj no tseem loj tshaj Huab Tais Thaib thiab los cas lawv tseem muaj peev xwm tsuj siab tshaj Huab Tais Thaib lub hwj chim thiab?

    Lawv rov thov txim ces zoo mas! Tsam ces cov muv xis lim tuaj ib tog, cov Peeb zeej tuaj ib tog, cov Hmoob tseem tuaj ib tog thiab ces seb Thaib teb yuav nyob li cas xwb laub!

    Kuv mus ntau lwm Thaib teb lawm; kuv pom tias ib feem ntawm cov neeg ncig teb chaws yog mus tshaj xyuas cov haiv neeg yaj sab hauv Thaib teb; cov tub nkauj coj cwj pwm li ntshe twb tsis yog tsoom Hmoob yuav tawm tsam lawv, ntshe tsam yog tseem hwv Thaib tseem yuav tawm tsam lawv thiab.
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    Post  Kaubkimyaj 7th February 2015, 1:18 pm

    Kwv Liajntsuab nyob zoo koj hnub no...

    Kuv paub zoo txog cov kwv tij Hmoob Thaib: lawv muab Hmoob faib ua 4 pab lawm tamsim no.  Thaum ntxov, Lawv muab Hmoob faib ua Hmoob nyoos thiab Hmoob pobkwv daj.  Tamqab 1975 ces Hmoob Nplog kuj muaj feem cuamtshuam txog kev nruajntseg tseemceeb nyob hauv Thaib-Teb. Kuv yeej paub zoo tias nomtswv Thaib xav li cas rau Hmoob, thaib cov pejxeem Thaib ho coj+xav li cas rau Hmoob.

    Peb cov Hmoob nyob txhua lub tebchaws tsis muaj kev txawjntse txaus sab kev coj thiab kev txawjntse kabtheem ib haiv neeg.  Peb Hmoob coj li pab neeg npoj xwb tsis yog haiv neeg ces peb sib hlub nqaim nqaim thiab peb pom kev tseem ceeb ntawm lub npe+meejmom haiv ntiav ntiav.  Thaum peb tsuas txog li no xwb, peb Hmoob thaij hla tsis dhau txoj kev raug luag quab yuam saib qaij thiab tsim teebmeem.  Kev koom siab sib haumxeeb+sib raug zoo ntawm Hmoob rov yog teevzooj ua rau lwm haiv neeg saib tsis taus Hmoob vim Hmoob tsis muaj kev haumxeeb kom xws li yog ib haiv neeg ces lwm haiv neeg yeej yuav saib yus tsob Hmoob zoo li npoj neeg xwb tsis tsheej haiv.  Luag ua dab tsis los luag yeej tsis txhawj+ntshai tias tsam tub qaug Hmoob no nawb.


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    Post  Kaubkimyaj 7th February 2015, 1:40 pm



    Koojziagkabzaug...koj yeej hais yog lus kawg mas.

    Vajntxwv Thaib yeej nthuav dejsiab hlub txhua nywjkeeb nyob hauv nws daimav li nws yog leej txiv ntawm haiv neeg, kuv tus kheej ntseeg tias tus Vaj Thaib no yeej zoo thiab coj ncaj rau txhua tsav neeg nyob nws qab tswjhwm.  Tabsis cov nom pwjceeb (local leaders) thiab cov peebzeej thawj tub ceevxwm ntawm txhua lub xeev/nroog yog cov tsim kev kub ntxhov rau tsoom pejxeem nyob hauv lawv xubntiag xwb. Kuv tau ncig khiav lajfai thoob Thaib teb 1988-1993, thiab kuv paub zoo txog Tsoomfwv tej lajtxheej lub caij ntawv tias lawv ua dabtsi rau peb cov Hmoob Thaib. Tom qab kuv mus dhau lawm, nom tswv Thaib tau siv tomtxwv ntxias Hmoob Thaib tua povtseg cov neeg muaj nyiaj tuag lawm coob heev.

    Tseemfwv Thaib muaj cwjpwm phem/zoo li cas rau tsoom neeg Thaib txhua hom neeg los kuv yeej luj tau zoo.  Nws kuj tim Tsoomfwv tsis limxeeb rau kev txhawb nqa txhua nywj keeb raws Vaj Thaib lub homphiaj, thiab qhov tseem ceeb kuj yog tim yus Hmoob+tsoom neeg yajsab yeej tsis muaj kev vammeej hauv sab kev txawj ntse+lub hlwb pom deb paub meej tseeb ntawm kev sibkoom haiv yoog kom haum nrog lwm haiv neeg.  Feem ntau yog Yus Hmoob+(tsoom neeg yajsab) rov tsim teebmeem rau yus ces luag mam li loos kom pov-khawv nkaus rau xwb os nawb.

    Neeg ncig tebchaws nyiam mus rau yajsab vim neeg yajsab chawj tiam lawv li lawv yog tswvntuj.  Tabsis cov neeg tsham pem no kuj yeej muaj ib cov muaj lub homphiaj qias neeg kawg rau txoj kev mus tsim teebmeem kev pauv hloov kom tsoom neeg yajsab tau txais kev piamsij puas ntsoog loj nyob rau sij hawm ntev xyoo (long term).
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    Post  Liajntsuab 9th February 2015, 4:13 pm

    Tilaug Kaumkimyaj thiab Niamtij Koojziagkabzaug,

    Peb ua txoj kev ua neej nyob ces nej nco ntsoov tias yog luag pom YUS TSIS ZOO lawm ces txawm koj yuav ua zoo thiab coj zoo npaum twg rau luag los luag yeej pom yus TSIS ZOO. Muab ua pivtxwv li tiag cov Neeg Dub xwb mas lawv txawm yuav NTXUAV TES NTAU npaum li twg mam li los ua noj los luag tias yeej TSEEM QIAS NEEG hos yus txawm HWM LUAG NPAUM TWG LOS LUAG YEEJ TSIS NYIAM YUS vim yog luag yeej ntxub yus haivneeg nyob hauv nruag siab.

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