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    Post  LojLeeb 5th May 2011, 11:29 pm

    Caws nej lo nia kab link nov mus nyeem tau. Tus tub hmoob Dr. nov nws yog tus muab xov rau LPDR thiab USA FBI nte Vaj Pov lawv 11 leej neeg. Hauv lub Website (Wikileak) yog cov tso tawm rau ntiaj teb pom thiab paub hai tias, Tus neeg muab Xov rau plog liab thiab tsoom fwv yog leej twg. Raws li lawv hai hauv tsab ntawv nov ma lawv yeej hai yog Hmoob cov Dr. yog tus muab txov thiab nte Vaj Pov lawv ntag. Cov lus nov tsi yog kuv hai kuv tsi paub tab si kuv tsua saib raws li lawv cov lus nyob rau hauv Wikileak xwb.

    Thiab nej rov saib yog vim li ca Dr. Yang Dao lawv thiaj li tau txai khoom plig lo ntawm plog liab?

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    Tsi tag li lo nej ho lo mloog Lauj Lis Hmoob Hai txog Hmoob cov tub ntxawj je muab xov lo yog Spy rau peb tus yeeb ncuab.

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    Post  koojziagkabzaug 6th May 2011, 12:24 am


    Lojleeb,

    Ua tsaug koj coj cov lus nov tuaj rau peb paub txog.

    Kev Politic ces tus twg nyiam dab tsi ces qhov ntawd yeej zoo tshaj xwb.

    Dr.Yang Dao cov lus nov ces yeej zoo tib yam li nws sau nws phau ntawv txog thaum teb chaws tawg 1975, es nws muab Hmoob hu ua "Peuple de L'Opium" txhais tias "Haiv Neeg Yaj Yeeb" =haiv neeg cog yeeb, haiv neeg quav yeeb = yog ib lub npe phem tshaj qhov phem lawm rau Haiv Hmoob.

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    Post  Hmoob ntuj qub qab 6th May 2011, 2:51 am

    Nyob zoo Lojleeb thiab Koojziagkabzaug

    Dr.Yangdao cov lus hais zoo lawm nawj kev koom tes tsis tsim kev kub ntxhov qhov ntawv yog qhov zoo dua.
    Ntawm Cob fab kuv xav tias dhau caij dhau nyoog lawm tsis yog lub caij txhob nrhiav kev piam sij yuav zoo dua thiaj yuav nyob kaj siab.
    Ntawm phau ntawv Dr.YangDao sau los lub caij ntawv yeej tseem yog qhov tseeb vim peb Hmoob yeej khwv Yaj Yeeb los muag yuav ntaub xo hnav thiab yuav poj yuav sev xwb tiag vim tsis pom qab khwv nyiaj lwm yam.
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    Post  MayPaj 6th May 2011, 4:36 am

    Nyob zoo Lojleeb, ua tsaug koj qhov new nawd...koj sau tias Vaj Pov raug txhom, kuv tseem xav tias Txiv Nais Phoo tseem nyob qhov twg rau lawv txhom no...tu siab nws sawv tsis tau rov los lawm.


    DR YANG DAO phau ntawv los yeej hais raws Hmoob lub neej, nws kuj yog hais qhov tseeb, tiam sis yus twb yog Hmoob thiab, txhob muab yus haiv Hmoob hu li ntawd , xav kom Hmoob tau lub koob lub npe zoo, yuav tau muab Hmoob hu ua, haiv neeg toj siab , neeg seem tsis nrhiav kev yeeb ncuab no xwb yuav zoo dua,yus txawm ua tau zoo rau lwm haiv neeg qhuas los yus haiv Hmoob twb tsis qhuas es yuav zoo qhov twg tuaj, yus txoj hmoo yug los ua Hmoob lawm, yuav tau ua twj ywm so yus Hmoob lub kua muag thaum lawv yuam kev thiab muaj teeb meem, yus ntuas los ntuas kiag rau yus haiv neeg xwb txhob ua tawm rau sab nrauv paub, tsis li ces luag yuav tsis hwm yus nrog yus haiv Hmoob tib si. Thaum zoo li no lawm, yus haiv Hmoob los yuav tsis hwm yus hos lwm haiv los yuav tsis hwm yus. Li no Hmoob thiaj sib faib, vim sawv daws tsis txawj sib hlub. Yang Dao thiab Vang Pao nkawv ob lub zaim muag mus tsis sib xws Hmoob thiaj tawg ua ob peb pab, los nyias muaj nyias qhov zoo thiab qhov phem, yog Hmoob muab ob tog opinion los sib kho, yuav tej yam zoo muab tej yam phem pov tseg ces Hmoob yuav koom tau ua ib pab, hos tus twg los nyias hais nyias zaj xwb ces Hmoob kawg zoo li cov musulman thiab cov pej xeem thaib uas muaj ob peb pab lawm thiab. Mam saib mus seb Hmoob puas txawj tig los ua ke ib tug txhob hais lus rhuav ib tug lawm, cov laus twb yuav dua toj tas tshuav cov nrab neej pib los tuav lamw xwb, sawv daws yuav tau saib xyuas kom zoo thiaj sib haum tau nawd peb Hmoob.


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    Post  LojLeeb 6th May 2011, 6:36 am

    Raws li tsab ntawv Wikileak muab tawm rau ntiaj teb tau saib ces Dr. Yang Dao yog tus neeg muab xov rau LPDR thiab nte VP lawv 11 leej neeg kaws. Yang Dao nws mus nrog LPDR tsi paub Plog liab them nyem li ca rau nws thiab tab si Daim ntawv luag muab ntawm ces lawv yeej hai nyob rau hauv.
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    Post  LojLeeb 6th May 2011, 6:39 am

    Peb saib daim ntawv tag ces peb tsi cia siab rau Dr. YD lawm vim nws ua li nov rau Hmong ces nws yuav tsi hlub hmoob li lawm. Cov caub fab lo yeej hai txog ntawm tuaj paj Kaub Hwj thiab Paj Kaub Muas nrog tib si rau hauv.
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    Post  koojziagkabzaug 6th May 2011, 4:47 pm

    Hmoob ntuj qub qab wrote:Nyob zoo Lojleeb thiab Koojziagkabzaug

    Dr.Yangdao cov lus hais zoo lawm nawj kev koom tes tsis tsim kev kub ntxhov qhov ntawv yog qhov zoo dua.
    Ntawm Cob fab kuv xav tias dhau caij dhau nyoog lawm tsis yog lub caij txhob nrhiav kev piam sij yuav zoo dua thiaj yuav nyob kaj siab.
    Ntawm phau ntawv Dr.YangDao sau los lub caij ntawv yeej tseem yog qhov tseeb vim peb Hmoob yeej khwv Yaj Yeeb los muag yuav ntaub xo hnav thiab yuav poj yuav sev xwb tiag vim tsis pom qab khwv nyiaj lwm yam.

    Hmoob Ntujqubqab,

    Ntawm kuv tus kheej, kuv yeej ib txwm hwm Dr.Yang Dao ua peb ib leeg tij tseem ceeb. Tab sis lub Title ntawm phau ntawv no mas kuv tsis tshua nyiam. Vim nws tsis yog ib qho yuav los daws tau teeb meem Hmoob quab yeeb. Yog pom tias yus haiv neeg liam mas yuav nrhiav kev los daws sab hauv, tab sis txhob muab tshwm sab nraud xwb. Ib yam li thaum ub Huab Tais Suav Tuam Tshoj ua tawv tshaj rau nws haiv neeg, vim cov Tawv Dawb coj yeeb tuaj rau lawv cog tib pliag tsis ntev xwb, lub teb chaws quab yeev tag, hauj lwm tsis khiav li. Nws thiaj tso lus kom leej twg tseem haus yeeb thiab tua kom tag pov tseg. Lawv tua mus tua los, ntes txog nws cov Ministres kiag ntag, thaum no lawv nug nws seb yuav ua li cas, nws teb kiag tias tus nom loj npaum li cas los tua kom tag xwb...Ces nws thiaj tswj tau nws lub teb chaw rov tsis haus yeeb lawm. ...Tseem muaj ntau yam ntxiv, tab sis tsis khoom tham ces tham me ntsis ua piv txwv xwb...Tab sis yog kev tswj hwm sab hauv xwb, lawv tsis hais lub npe phem rau sab nraud.

    Mas Peb Hmoob txawm muaj cov quav yeeb, ua yeeb npaum li cas los yuav nrhiav txoj hauv kev los pab kom tau peb haiv Hmoob dim ntawm tej kev phem thiab yuav tsum nrhiav kom lub txim rov poob rau cov neeg txhaum uas nqa noob yeeb tuaj rau Hmoob cog es Hmoob tsis muaj chaw khwv nyiaj ces thiaj muab txia ua chaw khwv nyiaj ntawd.

    Tab sis tag lawm ces cia tag mus, peb txhob hais txog lawm. Yam zoo peb yuav rau siab ua kom zoo mus li...Vim yus ua zoo los luag tsis pom zoo, yus khwv khwv los luag tsis pom yus kev khwv.

    Hais txog cov Hmoob Cob Fab, mas kuv yuav hais raws li kuv xav xwb. Kuv kuj tssi yog ib tug tub Tseev Tsim, kuv yog ib tug me nyuam neeg xwb, kuv tsis noj qab taug hauv, tsis noj qab taug lw, kuv tsis paub qhov twg rau qhov twg, dab tsi rau dab tsi, tab sis kuv hais li kuv xav xwb. Thov zam lub txheej, yog ho tsis nkag kis.

    Ntawm kuv tus kheej, cov ua Cob Fab los ntseeg Cob Fab, tom qab no ces ua mus ua los, muaj caub muaj chim, ces mob siab lawm, tus yuav hais li cas los muaj, yeej muaj tseeb thiab...Tab sis kuv hais thaum chiv keeb puam kwm...Thaum lub hauv paus, Nais Phoo Vaj Pov khiav tawm teb chaws, muaj ib cov uas nyob deb ciam teb Thaib, khiav tsis tau ces thiaj khiav nce mus rau pem Phus Npiab. THaum ntawd muaj coob heev, ib ntus tsis ntev tom qab, lawv txom nyem heev, cov seem tuag kuj khiav rov los "Koom=Lua" Nplog Liab, lawv kuj los nyob li pej xeem sawv daws tsis muaj teeb meem. Tsuas thaum lawv khiav mus ua Cob Fab ntawd, kuj raug tua tuag coob thiab tshaib plab tuag, yoo tshaib yoo nqhis es ua mob ua ntsaj tuag coob li coob...Kuv tus muam hlob kiag, muaj 10 tus me nyuam, tuag tag nrho tshua ob tug xwb. Nws tus kheej, yog los qeeb me ntsis ces twb tuag lawm thiab. Tab sis ho los sai me ntsi, es twb tsis taus li lawm, tab sis ho los ntsib Nplog ib thaj teb pob kws tab tom siav, thiaj ntais tau ob lub los rau nws noj cawm siav, ces nws thiaj li zoo los taus lawm...

    Kuv xav mas cov ua Cob Fab thaum ntej yog lawv yuam kev, ntshai ces yuam kev me ntsis...Tom qab tssi ntev ces txawm muaj cov muab cov nom tswv npe muag noj los dag ntxias kom muaj vam ces cia li ua tsheej ib pawg lawm. Hais los kuj tu siab thiab...Vim thaum pauv paus yog ib lub txim taws xwb, ua mus ua los, mob siab ces kis tas phab tas pheev.

    Kuv li, kuv xav kom txhua leej txhua tus thim xab es ua yam dab tsi los ua rau txoj kev nyab xeeb thaj yeeb rau txhua leej, txhua thaj chaw. Ib tug txhob tsuj nthi ib tug, ib pab txhob nias qees ib pab, peb thiaj yuav nyob ciaj vaj koom ciaj pawg, nyob ua haiv koom ua teb chaws...

    Kuv pom sawv daws nyias khav nyias loj, nyias heev, nyias ntse, nyias muaj zog, tab sis ua tssi tau ib yam tseem ceeb los noj ...Ces tu siab xwb...
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    Post  Hmoob ntuj qub qab 8th May 2011, 7:37 pm

    Nyob zoo Koojziagkabzaug,Maiv Paj thiab LojLeeb.

    Zoo siab rau sawv daws lub tswv yim zoo, kuv mas kuv xav tias tiam 21 no mus peb Hmoob nyob lub teb chaws twg los peb nyob kom zoo nyob kom ruaj, coj zoo coj tus yoog Luag tus kev cai Lij choj kom zoo xwb peb yeej nyob kaj siab nyob thaj yeeb lawm.
    Peb Hmoob txhob tsim kev kub ntxhov vim tej ntawv yog kev piam sij tas nrho .
    Ib lub teb chaws muaj ntau haiv neeg nyob cov nyob hauv lub teb chaws ntawv luag noj sib hlub haus sib cev sib faib Nom sib faib tswv ua sib koom tes txhim kho lub teb chaws kom vam meej mus lawm yav pem suab haiv neeg twg leej twg muaj peev xwm muaj lub tswv yim zoo tus ntawv yeej tau Nom tau tswv ua luag twb tsis muaj qhov yuav tawm tsam rau tseem fwv luag koom tes txim kho lub teb chaws , Yus nyob sab nrauv yus ho pheej qw thiab khav yuav los muab lub teb chaws faib yuav los ua Nom ua tswv ...kuv xav tias tej no yuav tsis zoo nkauj rau cov qw thiab khav ntawv vim txoj kev taug ntawv nws yog kev pob zeb pob tsuas xwb yog tsis mloog hais tseem taug qees muaj ib hnub yuav poob pob tsuas tas.
    Thaum Yawg Loj nyob Yawg yeej tsis nyiam Cob fab kiag li Luag thiaj tsis pub Niam ntawv Yaj Soob lwj lawv sawv tau.
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    Post  koojziagkabzaug 6th June 2011, 3:45 pm

    LojLeeb wrote:Caws nej lo nia kab link nov mus nyeem tau. Tus tub hmoob Dr. nov nws yog tus muab xov rau LPDR thiab USA FBI nte Vaj Pov lawv 11 leej neeg. Hauv lub Website (Wikileak) yog cov tso tawm rau ntiaj teb pom thiab paub hai tias, Tus neeg muab Xov rau plog liab thiab tsoom fwv yog leej twg. Raws li lawv hai hauv tsab ntawv nov ma lawv yeej hai yog Hmoob cov Dr. yog tus muab txov thiab nte Vaj Pov lawv ntag. Cov lus nov tsi yog kuv hai kuv tsi paub tab si kuv tsua saib raws li lawv cov lus nyob rau hauv Wikileak xwb.

    Thiab nej rov saib yog vim li ca Dr. Yang Dao lawv thiaj li tau txai khoom plig lo ntawm plog liab?

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/04/22/112655/cable-hmong-leader-provides-insights.html#ixzz1KJQEK4qY


    Tsi tag li lo nej ho lo mloog Lauj Lis Hmoob Hai txog Hmoob cov tub ntxawj je muab xov lo yog Spy rau peb tus yeeb ncuab.

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    Nyob zoo Lojleeb,

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    Post  CAWSEEJ 7th June 2011, 2:15 pm

    Nyob zoo Cov Phoojywg thiab Kwvtij Hmoob,

    Xyov nej ho pom licas txog ntawm Dr. Yang Dao tiamsis nyob li ntawm kuv tuskheej paub nws tej haujlwm uas nws tau ua tshwmsim los thiab raws li kuv hnov ib txhia Hmoob tham mas ntshe Dr. Yang Dao yuav tsis yog peb Hmoob li ib tug zoo kwvtij li sawvdaws kev cia siab lawm. Nws yog tseem tseem yog Hmoob li ib tug Yeebncuab loj ntawm Hmoob lub xubntiag uas raws Hmoob qab soj Hmoob lw los tau 40 tawm lub xyoo no. Hos cov ho pheej qhuas qhuas nws ntawd ib txhia yog nws li kwvtij hos ib txhia mas yog cov tsis paub tab thiaj li raws nws qab hos dua li ces Hmoob txav deb heev ntawm nws thiab xav nti qaub ncaug rau lawm xwb.

    Tos kuv hais li los kuv yeej khaws Hmoob txhua tus tej dabneeg cia thiaj li tau Dr. Yang Dao cov dabneeg los sib piv ua ntuvzus los mus txog ntua rau xyoo 2006 thaum Hmoob tau txais kev puas tsuaj loj kawg nkaus nyob rau hauv history uas yog sawvdaws yeej ntseeg 95% tias tej teebmeem dhau los no yog Dr. Yang Dao ua tus tsim tag nrho. Nimno Hmoob lub koobmeej thiaj raug luag ntxub thiab muab Hmoob tis npe cov Neeg Phem (terror).

    Cov povthawj Dr. Yang Dao tshwmsim los yog li nram no.

    1. Phau ntawv nej hais los saum no tias Hmoob haus yeeb LARTEGUY PEUPLE DE L'OPIUM (HOM NEEG HAUS YEEB)
    2. Dr. Yang Dao yog tus uas los tawm tsam ntawm Hmoob thiab sau ntawv koom nrog Betty McCollum mus rau Tsev Dawb kom yuav tsum muab tus NTR pub rau Nplogliab.

    3. Xyoo 2002 thaum nws mus Nplog teb thawj zaug ntawd nws muab Cobfab tis lub npe hu ua BANDIT ( NEEG HUAB NOJ HUAB HAUS)
    4. Thaum lub 7 hli ntuj xyoo 2006 tom qab Federal lawv ntes Yawg Hlob Vaj Pov 12 tug, Dr. Yang Dao tau sau ib tsab ntawv kom Hmoob, Khabmeem, Co, Pubthawj thiab Lostsuas nrog rau txhua lub Koomhaum uas yog tsim tsa los tawmtsam Nplogliab cia li tsum kiag tseg los ua ib cov pejxeem zoo nyob lub tebchaws U.S.A. Dhau lintawd lawm nws hais tias xav kom Federal nrhiav kev ncaj(fair) rau Yawg Hlob Vaj Pov lawv 12 tug no kom raws li lawv lub txim uas lawv tau ua txhaum.

    5. Tom qab Yawg Hlob Vaj Pov lawv raug ntes kaw lawm, nws tseem tso khavthawj/hem ib tsoom Hmoob tias kom sawvdaws nyob twjywm tsis txhob mus kwv paib tawm tsam luag Federal, yog leejtwg tsis ntseeg ces yuav mag ntes, mag khi ib yam nkaus li Yawg Hlob Vaj Pov lawv thiab. Qhov zoo tshaj kom Hmoob sawvdaws nyob twjywm cia Dr. Yang Dao lawv cov Tub Txawg mam li sau ntawv mus nrog Federal hais xwb yuav zoo dua.

    6. Daim ntawv uas sau rau Dr. Tony Vaj. Nws hais ntau yam heev tsis zoo txog Yawg Hlob Vaj Pov lawv mus nrog cov Hmoob Havzoov thiab Paj Kaub Muas uas raug cov Neeg Phem muab tua pem ciamteb Nplog thiab Thaib. Yog muab Dr. Yang Dao cov lus luj los ces Paj Kaub Hawj mus rau Paj Kaub Muas lawv cov no los yeej yog nws ua tus leg tag nrho pub rau Nplogliab. Daim ntawv no twb pom coj tuaj tso nyob rau lub website no thiab.

    7. Dr. Yag Dao yog ib tug Pejxeem xwb ho tau mus txais khoom plig (medal) ntawm Nplogliab. Peb tsuas pom cov luag muab tso hauv youtube xwb cov luag tsis tso mas xyov tseem muaj yam dabtsi zoo los yog phem tshaj saud. Yam nws ua no txhaum luag tus Nab nyub npais (cai) nyob lub tebchaws U.S.A.

    8. Peb tuaj nyob U.S.A. tau 35 tawm lub xyoo no Hmoob muaj teebmeem ntau ntau zaus xws li tej yam me mas tsis hais tiamsis tej yam loj loj uas ib tsoom Hmoob yeej tau mus kwv paiv txhua lub nroog thiab sablaj pem toj nram hav yeej tsis tau pom Dr. Yang Dao nkag khuav tuaj pab Hmoob ib zaug li.

    Yog li no kuv thiab feem ntau ntawm peb tsoom Hmoob cov neeg paub tab thiaj pom tau tias Dr. Yang Dao tsis yog peb Hmoob li ib tug kwvtij thiab tsis tsimnyog nws thiab nws pawg ntseeg pheej yuav niajhnub hais tias Dr. Yang Dao yog peb Hmoob li ib tug thawj coj lawm. Qhov zoo tshaj nws rov mus nyob tim Nplogteb yuav zoo dua tiamsis nws yeej paub tias nws mus nyob tsis tau vim cov neeg coj li nws yuav tsis haum cov Hmoob uas ua nom tim Nplogteb thiab.

    Cia nej sim ho los xav puas yog li peb ib txhia hais los saud.
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    Post  LojLeeb 7th June 2011, 9:25 pm

    id: 111614 date: 6/11/2007 10:55 refid: 07VIENTIANE487 origin: Embassy Vientiane classification: SECRET//NOFORN destination: header: VZCZCXYZ0000 PP RUEHWEB DE RUEHVN #0487/01 1621055 ZNY SSSSS ZZH P 111055Z JUN 07 FM AMEMBASSY VIENTIANE TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 1308 INFO RUEHBK/AMEMBASSY BANGKOK PRIORITY 7355 RUEAIIA/CIA WASHDC PRIORITY RHMFISS/FBI WASHINGTON DC PRIORITY ----------------- header ends ---------------S E C R E T VIENTIANE 000487 SIPDIS NOFORN SIPDIS BANGKOK FOR LEGATT BANGKOK FOR RSO STATE FOR EAP/MLS (E. BESTIC) STATE FOR DS/IP/ITA (G. MOODY) STATE FOR DS/IP/EAP E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/10/2017 TAGS: ASEC, LA, PGOV, PREL, PTER SUBJECT: HMONG-AMERICAN LEADER PROVIDES INSIGHTS INTO COUP PLOT, ASKS FOR PROTECTION Classified By: Charge d'affaires, a.i. Mary Grace McGeehan for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d). 1. (S) Summary: The politics of the Hmong communtiies in both Laos and the United States are extremely complex. As a result, a conversation with even a well educated Hmong (or Hmong-American) leader involves exaggeration and guess work and often raises more questions than it provides answers. Nevertheless, a recent conversation with Hmong-American leader XXXXXXXXXXXXraises several issues that may be worth pursuing. XXXXXXXXXXXX also asks for police/FBI protection before agreeing to address a Hmong-American gathering in Fresno, California. Since he may be in possesison of important, time-sensitive information and seems to be willing to pass a positive message -- that Hmong-American support for attempts to destabilize the Lao Government violates U.S. laws -- the FBI may have interest in contacting him, and the




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    Department may have an interest in supporting the dissemination of this message. XXXXXXXXXXXX asks the Department to write letters directly to Hmong groups in the United States to repeat this message. Please see our action requests in paragraph 13. End summary. The Chao Fa ----------2. (S) A/DCM met with noted Hmong-American leader XXXXXXXXXXXX (strictly protect) three times during the week of the arrest of Hmong-American conspirators by the U.S. DOJ. XXXXXXXXXXXX, well known within the Hmong-American community XXXXXXXXXXXX in the United States XXXXXXXXXXXX, asked that Embassy Bangkok pursue an investigation into an investment in a company in Thailand that the Chao Fa group may be using to set up a base of operations to help support its activities in Laos. 3. (S) We understand the Chao Fa to be a group, originally set up in 1917 or so, espousing a more "pure" Hmong tradition, and a tradition more based on magic and spirits than that of the Neo Hom group led by General Vang Pao. The Chao Fa and Neo Hom have led very separate movements in opposition to the Government of Laos (GOL) over the years. Thus we view with concern reports from XXXXXXXXXXXXand elsewhere that the Chao Fa and Neo Hom may have started cooperating since the beginning of this year. 4. (S) XXXXXXXXXXXXreported a new sense of confidence on the part of the Chao Fa since the Presidency of the "Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization" (UNPO) accepted the Hmong Chao Fa Federated State as a member during a UNPO meeting held at the European Parliament in Brussels February 1-3. The "state" envisioned for the Chao Fa appears to include 320,00 Hmong people living on approximately 50,000 square kilometers north of Vientiane -- all or parts of Houaphan, Xieng Khouang, and Sayaboury Provinces and the city of Luang Prabang. (Note: The political front of the Chao Fa is apparently the World Hmong People's Congress (WHPC) headquartered in New York City.) 5. (S) According to XXXXXXXXXXXX, Chao Fa recruiters visited California, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan at the end of March and in early April looking for volunteers and promising that, now that the Hmong are recognized by UNPO, the USG will help them build a Hmong Nation in Laos. Apparently as part of this new level of confidence, earlier this year the Chao Fa invested in a Chinese company named "Borisat Wang Jing" ("Wang Jing Company") located in Chiang Saen in Chiang Rai Province in Thailand. The Chao Fa plan to use this company as a base from which they can enter Laos and undertake activities. XXXXXXXXXXXXnoted that the current Chao Fa leader is Pa Kao Moun, who fled from Laos to Thailand after the change of government in Laos in 1975. Pa Kao Moun has remained in Thailand since 1975 and is now roughly 60 years old. (Note: his name would indicate he is a close relative of former Chao Fa leader Pa Kao Her who was assassinated in late 2002.) XXXXXXXXXXXXhas heard that the Chao Fa leaders do not see the recent arrests of General Vang Pao and his group to have any implications for them or their future


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    activities. Neo Hom (United Front) ---------------------6. (S) XXXXXXXXXXXX indicated that two leaders of General Vang Pao's Neo Hom organization in Thailand are XXXXXXXXXXXXand XXXXXXXXXXXX, both of whom have homes (apparently in northern Thailand) that can be used as bases of operation for the Neo Hom. In addition, XXXXXXXXXXXX identified a "Mr. Bird" in Chiangmai, Thailand, as having worked with General Vang Pao for many years. Mr. Bird, whose mother is Thai and father American, is head of a Hmong Chao Khao Foundation (Hmong Mountain People Foundation) based in Chiangmai. 7. (S) XXXXXXXXXXXXpassed along a rumor he had been told by a Hmong contact from Thailand (who had reportedly been told in turn by a Thai undercover officer) that there are as many as 500 Hmong-Americans currently in Thailand, apparently as part of planned Neo Hom operations. When pressed, XXXXXXXXXXXX admitted the number was probably exaggerated but judged that there were probably at least 20 operatives. XXXXXXXXXXXX expressed particular concern about being told by his own contacts two days earlier that, of the 8200 Hmong at the Huay Nam Khao holding camp in Thailand's Petchabun Province, as many as 1000 were prepared to cross back into Laos to (re)join the insurgency. Asked how the Neo Hom could be operating with such apparent impunity, XXXXXXXXXXXX said his contacts report regular payments to Thai military officers at the level of colonel and general. A Third Group ------------8. (S) XXXXXXXXXXXX mentioned to A/DCM for the first time that there is a third Hmong insurgent group which had broken off from the Chao Fa movement after the October 2002 assassination of Pa Kao Her. XXXXXXXXXXXX described this very small Thai-based group as being led by former Pa Kao Her secretary general Teng Yang. SIPDIS Playing Rough ------------9. (S) XXXXXXXXXXXX expressed strong concern about methods being used by both Chao Fa and Neo Hom in the last few months. He referred to Neo Hom activists who visited the Huay Nam Khao holding camp in February and recruited ten Chao Fa supporters to return to Laos on a scouting mission. After spending two weeks in Laos, they reportedly returned to Huay Nam Khao to tell the activists there was no chance the general Hmong population in Laos would support an uprising -too many had achieved economic or political success (with more Hmong now in government positions than had been the case in 1975 -- ranging from Politburo Member Madame Pany Yathorthou to cabinet members, governors, deputy governors, mayors etc.). The activists told the ten scouts they all needed to go to Bangkok to report this -- and the ten have not been seen since.




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    10. (S) XXXXXXXXXXX Xalso mentioned another contact in Laos who called him in the United States in April saying Chao Fa operatives had visited his home to recruit him to help ambush busses. They left him 40 "files" of information to be passed on to other likely supporters. He called XXXXXXXXXXXXto ask what to do. XXXXXXXXXXXX told him to burn the files and avoid further contact with the Chao Fa operatives. When XXXXXXXXXXXX arrived in Laos last week, he called the contact only to find his number had been disconnected, and the contact is nowhere to be found. Direct Mail ----------11. (S) XXXXXXXXXXXX assured A/DCM that, before leaving on this trip to Laos, he had stopped in Fresno and appeared on a local Hmong radio program XXXXXXXXXXXX to tell the audience (before the arrests of the General Vang Pao group) that actions against the GOL violated U.S. laws. He believes it important for the Department of State to send letters to all major Hmong organizations in the United States to repeat this message to them directly. XXXXXXXXXXXX remembered former EAP DAS Matt Daley delivering this message to a conference of Hmong Americans in 2004 with great impact. XXXXXXXXXXXX pointed out he appeared on radio programs and at Hmong-American gatherings after this conference to help repeat Mr. Daley's message. Fresno -----12. (S) XXXXXXXXXXXX also told A/DCM he has heard from his family that he is being invited to address a gathering of Hmong Americans in Fresno when he returns to the United States. (Note: he departs Vientiane tonight -- June 11). However, he is unwilling to do so without protection from the local police and/or FBI. Since he appears to be willing to deliver to the Hmong American community a strong message against helping the insurgency, supporting him would appear to be in USG interests. Action Requests --------------13. (S) We recommend that the Department take the following actions: a) instruct Embassy Bangkok to coordinate with Thai authorities to check on the company named in para 5 (Borisat Wang Jing) and the several Hmong leaders currently living in Thailand mentioned in paras 5, 6, and 8. b) consider the proposal for letters from the Department to the main Hmong organizations in the United States delivering the message stated by EAP DAS Daley in 2004: that support of attempts to overthrow the GOL violate U.S. laws. c) pass on to the FBI XXXXXXXXXXXX's request for protection if he addresses a gathering of Hmong Americans in Fresno California, a central location for General Vang Pao




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    supporters. XXXXXXXXXXXXmay be reached at phone number: (XXXXXXXXXXXX. XXXXXXXXXXXX may be able to provide valuable information to the FBI regarding the inner workings of these Hmong organizations which may assist the ongoing FBI investigation(s). COMMENT ------14. (S) XXXXXXXXXXXXknows all of these players well -- he was a political advisor to General Vang Pao before 1975 and was briefly a senior official in the Neo Hom organization in the early 1980s before he broke with Neo Hom over tactics. It is of course likely that he is attempting a balancing act: using this opportunity to enhance his position within the Hmong-American community and furthering his own personal agenda while also attempting to keep the Hmong-American community within the confines of U.S. law. Nonetheless, the message he seems willing to deliver is a message we need repeated in the Hmong-American community, so the Embassy recommends the Department follow up on his information and suggestions. MCGEEHAN =======================CABLE ENDS============================




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    Post  LojLeeb 7th June 2011, 9:33 pm

    kuv copy kab link ua ntej qhia rau koj xwb, tshuav kab link thib 2 tsi tau copy, kuv qhia rau koj copy nawb, koj nia rau text, (nws muaj zoo li nov)
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    koj nia text, koj saib tus lib 1, koj high light rau ces right click copy tag ces lo paste rau koj daim page xwb, ces koj rov nia tus arrow right, kom pom numbe 2 ces koj copy kom txog rau tus lib 5 ces tag lawm. Koj ua li kuv qhia nov xwb nawb mog ces koj copy tau lawv cov ntawv lawm os. haaaa Txhob qhia rau lwm tus tsam lawv ho paub copy lawm thiab haaaa tso dag xwb. KOj sim li kuv qhiai nov xwb ces tau lawm ma.
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    Post  koojziagkabzaug 8th June 2011, 12:29 am


    Nyob zoo Lojleeb,

    Ua tsaug nawb kuv tuis Xib Hwb...Nws yog kuv sab tes xis, txhua yam nws txawj cuag khawv koob thim...Nws yog kuv lub teeb, txhua yam nws ua rau kuv nyab xeeb...Kuv ua nws tsaug...Vim nws yog kuv tus phooj ywg ib txwm sib raug...Kuv copy tau lawm os...Yog tsis muaj nws mas ntshe kuv yuav tssi paub txog kev siv tej yam no...Zoo kawg kliag...

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    Nws puas ntseeg tej yam zoo li nov tiag?
    Kuv xav tias tsam tssi yog tseeb, yog muaj neeg cuav ua Yang Dao npe xwb no...Vim neeg txawj ntse heev thiab lawv ib txwm haub ntxias kom Yawg Hlob Vaj Pov thiab Yang Dao nkawd tsis sib haum, ces zaum no nkawd thiaj li this cov neeg DAG ntawd sib ntxub lawm.
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    Post  xiongchang 8th May 2012, 1:29 pm

    - Tug tib neeg, Kawm paub txawj ntse; Hlub haiv tias....Yeej tsi muab yug haiv neeg, Lub qe tov tsoo tawg ib zaug; Tsw thoob zej zog....Tsi ua mej txwv, Rau yeeb ncuab tua; Yug haiv neeg....Nej xav puas yog mas, Tsoom phooj ywg! Nkauj muam hmoob, Hlub hmov tshua suav daws; Txawm yug tsi ua dab tsi? Los nyob twj ywm, Txhob mus nplog teb heev heev; Ces luag tsi ntaus nqis phem rau yug li mas....Yog nej tsi ntseeg, Txawm nej txiv kiag; Nej txiv hlob....Txiv ntxawm kiag, Tij laug koom niam txiv ib plab yug zog; Mus ntau zaug nplog teb....Rov los tsev, Yeej hais lug txawv kiag; Tsi nkag nej kis....Tsi tuaj nej zaj, Tsi npuab nej seem; Nej hais ntau....Nrog nej sib cav yeej swb cuag li, Nplog liab yog nws kwv tij txiv tub ntas; Cov zoo li no....Twb raug nplog liab haub ntxias dag, Yuav tau nws; Ua tub tes....Tub taw lawm mas, Ua li cov laug hais; Tsi cem pob zeb....Los yeej pom roob ris, Tsi nchuav qe; Los yeej pom dab....Tsi tas hais, Yeej paub zoo; Cov ua cob fab....Los txhob khav vwm ntsuav, Vim quav tsw tog twg? Tsi paub ntxhiab cua, Yuav yeej; Tsi pom....Yuav swb, Tsi paub; Tug tib neeg laug....Nqaij tawv ntsws ntsee, Puas plhis tawv hluas; Tug tib neeg tuag....Puas sawv rov los ua neeg, Ntsia tej tswv yim no xwb; Yeej paub tug tib neeg....Kawm paub txawj ntse lawm, Nyob zoo; Mam sis ntsib dua lwm zaug os.
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    Post  HmoobTsab 9th May 2012, 5:18 am

    yuav ua cas thiab paub hais tais yog Dr Yang Dao? Tsis pom nws lub npe ?
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    Post  xiongchang 9th May 2012, 6:06 am

    - He....he.... Smile Smile Laughing Laughing Nyob zoo os, Sawv ntxov os; Tug kwv tij aws....Yog yuav tog, Pom kiag tug neeg ntawd; Lub npe tawm plawg....Es mam ntseeg tias, Yog tug neeg ntawd; Ces lig dhau lawm os....Tug me kwv tij, Ua neej nyob ntiaj teb no; Yuav tau cuab pob ntseg mloog xov xwm txhua tsav yam sab nraum....Tsa qhov muag ntsia, Seb leej twg? Ua li cas? Kam noj kev haus mus los sib cuag, Zoo li cas?; Thiaj caum raws cuag....Yug yug yeeb ncuab, Yog koj nyob ze me ntsis; Yog koj tseem hluas.....Siv koj lub sij hawm muaj nuj nqis, Tuaj nrog kuv tham mas yom; Ntshe koj nyob deb hwv xwb os....Nom loj li, Qiib yawg ntawd; Muaj hauj lwm dab tsi? Pheej rov mus nplog teb heev ua luaj mag lov, Luj tej no; Tug tib neeg muaj hlwb....Yeej paub zoo os, Tug kwv tij aws.

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