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xiongchang- Moderator
- Messages : 5005
Date d'inscription : 2012-04-16
......Hab....hab.... ....Nyob zoo os?....Kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Thov qhuas txawb nqa txog....Koj ua kwv lub tswv yim....kev pom dav fo....Koj cov lug tawm tswv yim zaum no os?....Suav daws....Niaj hnub qhuas tias....Me nyuam tub ntxhais....Teb chaws no....{Ntse}....Tab sis"....Me nyuam teb chaws no.... Cam ncauj heev....Cam thawj dhau....Niam txiv hais tsi mloog lug li os?....Niam txiv hais ntau....Hais qhia....Kws qhia ntawv....[School]....Ntes niam txiv kaw nkuaj nkag....[Jialled]....Txawv yav ntuj thaum nplog teb lawm os?....Nyiag ua....Ywj nyiag siab....Nyiag tsoo....Raws nyiag nyiam....Tim txoj cai....[Equal - liberty And Freedom]....Ntxiv kiag....{police - Lawyer - And Judge}....Rau lo lug no....Cuab zog.
Cawmsim- Visitor
- Messages : 24
Date d'inscription : 2014-12-05
xiongchang wrote:......Hab....hab.... ....Nyob zoo os?....Phooj ywg!....Cawm sim aws?....Thov zam lub txheej mog....Kev tham pem mas....Tham ntau yam lug os?....Kuv tug kheej no....Paub hmoob siab zoo lawm os?....Hmoob tham ntug cub xwb nawb....Kuv paub zoo....Pom meej tseeb tias?....Hmoob tham ntug cub xwb....Yog nqeg tes kiag....Hmoob thau hau txhua tug lawm....Tsi kam lawm os?....Kuv paub xyoo 1970....Kuv ua hauj lwm....[Pha Khao]....Thaum hais mas....Hais muaj ceem kawg...."Tab sis"....Thaum ti nkaug....Txhua tug tais caus....Ntshai tuag heev li....Tso tes khiav nkaum tas nrho....Tsi kam tiv thaiv nas?....Cia kuv ib leeg....Hais lug xwb....Lub sij hawm ntawd....Kuv noob nyoog....Nce xyoo kaum xya xwb....Thiab ntau zaug....Tom qab no....Suav tsi txheeb lawm....Kuv tsi cia siab lawm mog....Tej duab hauv no....Ntshe tham zoo siab xwb os?....Kom ntsuj plig zov xwb lauv?
Nyob zoo phooj ywg Xiong Chang.
Peb yog neeg paub qab hau lawm. Peb hais lus, hais kiag lub ntsiab xwb. Leej twg yuav coj mus ntaus nqe li cas nyob ntawm nyias nawb.
Qhov yuav tau noj tsis kam sib pab. Yog yuav tau me ntsis nyiaj thiab suab npe xwb ces sib cog qw lom vab vab li niaj hnub no ntag. Neeg txawj ntse ua kom tau noj, tau siv, ua kom tshwm sim tsis yog yuav qw lom vab vab. Luag ua tuaj nruab txha thiab tos neeg paub xwb luag twb nyob thoob tag li tam sim no suav thiab nyab laj tuaj nyob hauv Nplog lawm naj.
Cawmsim- Visitor
- Messages : 24
Date d'inscription : 2014-12-05
xiongchang wrote:......Hab....hab.... ....Nyob zoo os?....Kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Thov qhuas txawb nqa txog....Koj ua kwv lub tswv yim....kev pom dav fo....Koj cov lug tawm tswv yim zaum no os?....Suav daws....Niaj hnub qhuas tias....Me nyuam tub ntxhais....Teb chaws no....{Ntse}....Tab sis"....Me nyuam teb chaws no.... Cam ncauj heev....Cam thawj dhau....Niam txiv hais tsi mloog lug li os?....Niam txiv hais ntau....Hais qhia....Kws qhia ntawv....[School]....Ntes niam txiv kaw nkuaj nkag....[Jialled]....Txawv yav ntuj thaum nplog teb lawm os?....Nyiag ua....Ywj nyiag siab....Nyiag tsoo....Raws nyiag nyiam....Tim txoj cai....[Equal - liberty And Freedom]....Ntxiv kiag....{police - Lawyer - And Judge}....Rau lo lug no....Cuab zog.
Liajntsuab wrote:
Phoojywg Cawmsim,
Yog peb kev xav mas ib leeg yuav pom txawv me ntsis tiamsis ntawm kuv no ces yeej txawv tsis ntau pestsawg. Cia peb muab tham li no txog nqe lus cob menyuam. Yog muab 2 cov me nyuam li koj hais tim ub thiab tim no los sib piv raws li kuv pom xwb ntshe cov menyuam sab tim no poob qab lawm ntau dua vim txheej menyuam nimno tsis paub SIB HWM lawm (disrespect). Txoj cai Tsoomhwv tsim los yog coj los tswj Tsoomneeg txhua tus kom txhob hla dhau txoj kev tswj ntawm lub tebchaws hos yus txoj cai nyob HAUV TSEV yog tsim los TSWJ YUS TSEVNEEG kom paub sib hlub thiab sib hwm.
Txheej menyuam nimno lawv vammeej rau txoj kev kawm nrhiav noj nrhiav haus xwb ces lawv lub neej tom ntej no yuav zoo nkaus Mab Dawb lawv tej neej uas sib nrauj sib tso yuav luag txhua tus hos tej menyuam tsis nug niamtxiv xov, muaj mob twb tsis xauj. Yog li no peb tuaj nyob lub tebchaws thiaj pom tej meyuam tua taus Niam thiab txiv pov tseg. Peb ua neeg nyob yog thaum koj poob qab rau txoj kev TSIS PAUB SIB HWM lawm ces txhais tau tias koj poob qab txhua yam ntawm koj txoj kev UA NEEJ. Yog tias muab tau txoj kev kawm ntaub ntawv muaj txhua yam li cov tebchaws vammeej no transfer/pauv tau coj mus rau peb siv rau peb tebchaws thiab cia peb cob qhia peb cov menyuam peb yuav vammeej loj tshaj tim no.
Tsoom phoojywg, nej nco ntsoov nyob lub tebchaws no tos peb tej menyuam feem ntau li ntawm 70 % tsis mloog tej niam tej txiv lus los vim yog Tsoomhwv yeej tsis xav tsim koj muaj txoj cai los cob qhia kom menyuam tsimtxiaj rau txoj kev SIB HLUB. Yam Tsoomhwv tsim los rau hauv tsev kawm ntawv tsuas yog los cob qhia kom peb tej menyuam PAUB SIV LUAG TEJ TECHNOLOGIES MUS UA HAUJLWM KOM PAUB NRHIAV NOJ THIAB TAU NYIAJ SE/TAX RAU TSOOMHWV xwb.
Tusiab ntau yog tham txog tej menyuam nyob lub tebchaws no.
2 tug phooj ywg, neb hais yeej yog raws li neb nkag siab thiab neb pom.
Kuv to taub neb zoo, tab sis ntawm neeg kev cob qhia neeg. Tus system luag siv qhia neeg thiab kawm txog neeg hauv lub tebchaws USA tsis yog dog dig nawb. Luag txoj kev tso cai nyias ua kom kawg li nyias siab+tswv yim yog lub hlwb ntawm kev kawm tus neeg ntawv thiab kev tso tus neeg ntawv peem nws txoj kev paub+txawj+ntse ntag. Qhov tseem ceeb, luag yeej qhib neeg lub hlwb+lub qhov muag kom pom kev tseeb tshaj plaws txog ntawm nyias tus kheej peev xwm thiab kev txawj ntse, luag thiaj tso kom neeg muaj freedom.
Psychologically ntawm tus system no qhia neeg ntse tob heev, tab sis xyov peb tsoom niam txiv kwv tij Hmoob puas nkag siab txog lub ntsiab tseeb ntawm tus system nawb yom?
Ua neeg nyob, peb yeej pom meej kawg kiag tias tus menyuam koj txib li cas ua li ntawv, koj hais li cas ua li ntawv tsis yog neeg muaj hlwb+tswv yim zoo nawb. Tus neeg cag thawj tab sis cam mus raws reason thiab tswv yim zoo thiaj nrhiav tau txoj kev zoo dua qub. Ntawm peb cov me nyuam Hmoob hauv USA tsis tim tus system, tsis tim me nyuam. Nws tim peb yeej tsis nkag siab txog txoj kev cob neeg "menyuam" nyob hauv USA no. Nws yog vim peb yeej paub tsis txaus luag li reason tias vim li cas luag thiaj siv tus cai (system) zoo li no.
Tebchaws neeg vammeej, luag tsim txhua yam cai los ntawm kev kawm+tshawb fawb thiaj tsob zeem lees siv tau nawb. Nco ntsoov tias cov neeg sab Exsias koom tsis tau ib lub siab. Cov neeg Europeans, lawv nyob thoob ntau daim av/ tebchaws tshiab. Lawv koom siab nawb, lawv ntse thiab kav tau txhua thaj chaw lawv xav kav kom tau nawb mog.
xiongchang- Moderator
- Messages : 5005
Date d'inscription : 2012-04-16
......Txhua txoj cai....Cob qhia....(Kev ua neej neeg)....Yog nkag siab....To taub paub tseeb meej tias tiag....Tsi hla ciam....Tsi nam nri,....Tsi yuam cai mas....Thiaj paub txawj ntse tias tiag os?....Tib neeg feem coob....Poob lo lug n[plog tias....Cav nauv cuam....Nyoog pag nab lawv?....Ntwg nco....Ntwg hnov....Paub tsi meej....Pom tsi tseeb txog....{Vision}....Maub dub xuas ntau lawm.
xiongchang- Moderator
- Messages : 5005
Date d'inscription : 2012-04-16
......Kev kawm ntawv....Teb chaws no....Luag qhia me ntsis....Ua hauj lwm....Nrhiav nyiaj siv xwb os?....Paub tsi kawg ntsis....Txawj tsi txaus siv?....Ntwg nco....Ntwg hnov zoo li....Npau suav....Nco tsi meej....Xyov yog....Yam twg?....Yav ntuj thaum nplog teb....Luag qhia tua phom xwb....Luag tsi qhia....{Kev paub txawj ntse li os}....Tsi tas li ntawd....Tsi muaj zeem muag....Xam pom tsi deb....Tsi kawg ncua....Pom ntawm ko taw xwb.
Cawmsim- Visitor
- Messages : 24
Date d'inscription : 2014-12-05
Kev kawm hauv school tsis tau yog tag nrho USA tus cai "SYSTEM" qhia neeg, kev kawm ntawv/qhia ntawv "txuj" tsuas yog ib feem ntawm tus system xwb.. Nws tus system kev qhia neeg yog culture, social conceptions, ethics, regulations/laws/rules and daily affairs.
Kuv tseem tsis paub tias peb puas nkag siab txog tias peb tham dab tsi?
Kuv tseem tsis paub tias peb puas nkag siab txog tias peb tham dab tsi?
xiongchang- Moderator
- Messages : 5005
Date d'inscription : 2012-04-16
......Nyob zoo....Hnub tshiab....Wednesday April 1, 2015 AM....Kev tham pem....Pauv tswv yim...Pauv kev xav....Pauv kev kawm....(Ua neej neeg)....Yav tom ntej....Nc pem suab....Luj nce....Lub nqeg....Qhov twg zoo....Mam khaws yuav siv tom ntej os?....Nyob ntawm nyiam....Nyob ntawm xav....Nyob ntawm pom zoo....Thaum pib kiag....Hauv paug....Nce qeb vam meej....Ncha hmoo lug....Taum pib kiag....Yuam kev lawm....Tsi txog hom phiaj....Npaj siab tseg....Suav tsi txheeb lawm.
xiongchang- Moderator
- Messages : 5005
Date d'inscription : 2012-04-16
......Nyob zoo os?....Phooj ywg!....Cawm sim aws?....Kev tham pem....Txhua yam mas....Tsawg leej neeg mas....Thiaj tham nkag kis os?....Txawm ob kwv tij kiag....Koom txiv xya zog....Koom niam yug rhev ntxuav ntshav zog....Tug tuam....Tug poob kiag ntag.... .....Tseem sib cam qeeg mas yuam....Txawm niam txiv txij nkawm kiag....Tseem sib cav qeeg....Tseem sib ntaus.... ....Niaj hnub sib nrauj....Tso tseeg ne yuam....Vim nyiag....Nyiam nyiag....Tswv yim....Nqaij ntsuab tawv doog mas yuam....Kev ua hauj lwm ua ke kiag....Nyiag cam....Nyiag zaj....Nyiag qhuas....Nyiag tswv yim zoo tshaj...."Tab sis"....Thaum kawg....Raug teeb meem kiag....Mam paub lig dhau lawm os?....Nplog hais tias....Faj seeb ua ntej....Zoo dua os?....Ceev faj tug kheej zoo tshaj plawg....Muaj tseeb tias....Tsi dag suav daws li os?
xiongchang- Moderator
- Messages : 5005
Date d'inscription : 2012-04-16
......Yav tas lawm....March 7, 1994....Kuv pib hauj lwm....{Company}....Yog leej twg?....Ua hauj lwm....Tsi haum kuv tug kheej lawm....Tseev paub hauj lwm ntag....Tseev txawj ntag....Npuab tsi sam....Nrog tsi tau ua hauj lwm ua ke li os?....Kawg tawm khiav xwb....Kuv ib yawg....Tub kwv tij....Cov neeg ua hauj lwm....[Company]....Ntxub yawg tas nrho....Ua siab tawm....Tug nyab hlob foob yawg....Raug them....{Children - Support}....$125,000,oo....Yawg suab ntsiag zog....Nkauj muam nraug nus....Koom niam txiv plab xya....Tug siab tass nrho....(Kev ua neej neeg)....Ib zag me nyuam npua ntag....Tug txaij li cas?....Muaj tas nrho....Ib zag me nyuam qaib kiag....Tseem txawv mas yuam....Vim leeg kawm txawv tsev kawm ntawv lawm....Nyiag muaj nyiag kev xav txawv ntau yam lug.
Liajntsuab- Sponsor
- Messages : 809
Date d'inscription : 2011-12-04
[b]Cawmsim wrote:xiongchang wrote:......Hab....hab.... ....Nyob zoo os?....Kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Thov qhuas txawb nqa txog....Koj ua kwv lub tswv yim....kev pom dav fo....Koj cov lug tawm tswv yim zaum no os?....Suav daws....Niaj hnub qhuas tias....Me nyuam tub ntxhais....Teb chaws no....{Ntse}....Tab sis"....Me nyuam teb chaws no.... Cam ncauj heev....Cam thawj dhau....Niam txiv hais tsi mloog lug li os?....Niam txiv hais ntau....Hais qhia....Kws qhia ntawv....[School]....Ntes niam txiv kaw nkuaj nkag....[Jialled]....Txawv yav ntuj thaum nplog teb lawm os?....Nyiag ua....Ywj nyiag siab....Nyiag tsoo....Raws nyiag nyiam....Tim txoj cai....[Equal - liberty And Freedom]....Ntxiv kiag....{police - Lawyer - And Judge}....Rau lo lug no....Cuab zog.Liajntsuab wrote:
Phoojywg Cawmsim,
Yog peb kev xav mas ib leeg yuav pom txawv me ntsis tiamsis ntawm kuv no ces yeej txawv tsis ntau pestsawg. Cia peb muab tham li no txog nqe lus cob menyuam. Yog muab 2 cov me nyuam li koj hais tim ub thiab tim no los sib piv raws li kuv pom xwb ntshe cov menyuam sab tim no poob qab lawm ntau dua vim txheej menyuam nimno tsis paub SIB HWM lawm (disrespect). Txoj cai Tsoomhwv tsim los yog coj los tswj Tsoomneeg txhua tus kom txhob hla dhau txoj kev tswj ntawm lub tebchaws hos yus txoj cai nyob HAUV TSEV yog tsim los TSWJ YUS TSEVNEEG kom paub sib hlub thiab sib hwm.
Txheej menyuam nimno lawv vammeej rau txoj kev kawm nrhiav noj nrhiav haus xwb ces lawv lub neej tom ntej no yuav zoo nkaus Mab Dawb lawv tej neej uas sib nrauj sib tso yuav luag txhua tus hos tej menyuam tsis nug niamtxiv xov, muaj mob twb tsis xauj. Yog li no peb tuaj nyob lub tebchaws thiaj pom tej meyuam tua taus Niam thiab txiv pov tseg. Peb ua neeg nyob yog thaum koj poob qab rau txoj kev TSIS PAUB SIB HWM lawm ces txhais tau tias koj poob qab txhua yam ntawm koj txoj kev UA NEEJ. Yog tias muab tau txoj kev kawm ntaub ntawv muaj txhua yam li cov tebchaws vammeej no transfer/pauv tau coj mus rau peb siv rau peb tebchaws thiab cia peb cob qhia peb cov menyuam peb yuav vammeej loj tshaj tim no.
Tsoom phoojywg, nej nco ntsoov nyob lub tebchaws no tos peb tej menyuam feem ntau li ntawm 70 % tsis mloog tej niam tej txiv lus los vim yog Tsoomhwv yeej tsis xav tsim koj muaj txoj cai los cob qhia kom menyuam tsimtxiaj rau txoj kev SIB HLUB. Yam Tsoomhwv tsim los rau hauv tsev kawm ntawv tsuas yog los cob qhia kom peb tej menyuam PAUB SIV LUAG TEJ TECHNOLOGIES MUS UA HAUJLWM KOM PAUB NRHIAV NOJ THIAB TAU NYIAJ SE/TAX RAU TSOOMHWV xwb.
Tusiab ntau yog tham txog tej menyuam nyob lub tebchaws no.
2 tug phooj ywg, neb hais yeej yog raws li neb nkag siab thiab neb pom.
Kuv to taub neb zoo, tab sis ntawm neeg kev cob qhia neeg. Tus system luag siv qhia neeg thiab kawm txog neeg hauv lub tebchaws USA tsis yog dog dig nawb. Luag txoj kev tso cai nyias ua kom kawg li nyias siab+tswv yim yog lub hlwb ntawm kev kawm tus neeg ntawv thiab kev tso tus neeg ntawv peem nws txoj kev paub+txawj+ntse ntag. Qhov tseem ceeb, luag yeej qhib neeg lub hlwb+lub qhov muag kom pom kev tseeb tshaj plaws txog ntawm nyias tus kheej peev xwm thiab kev txawj ntse, luag thiaj tso kom neeg muaj freedom.
Psychologically ntawm tus system no qhia neeg ntse tob heev, tab sis xyov peb tsoom niam txiv kwv tij Hmoob puas nkag siab txog lub ntsiab tseeb ntawm tus system nawb yom?
Ua neeg nyob, peb yeej pom meej kawg kiag tias tus menyuam koj txib li cas ua li ntawv, koj hais li cas ua li ntawv tsis yog neeg muaj hlwb+tswv yim zoo nawb. Tus neeg cag thawj tab sis cam mus raws reason thiab tswv yim zoo thiaj nrhiav tau txoj kev zoo dua qub. Ntawm peb cov me nyuam Hmoob hauv USA tsis tim tus system, tsis tim me nyuam. Nws tim peb yeej tsis nkag siab txog txoj kev cob neeg "menyuam" nyob hauv USA no. Nws yog vim peb yeej paub tsis txaus luag li reason tias vim li cas luag thiaj siv tus cai (system) zoo li no.
Tebchaws neeg vammeej, luag tsim txhua yam cai los ntawm kev kawm+tshawb fawb thiaj tsob zeem lees siv tau nawb. Nco ntsoov tias cov neeg sab Exsias koom tsis tau ib lub siab. Cov neeg Europeans, lawv nyob thoob ntau daim av/ tebchaws tshiab. Lawv koom siab nawb, lawv ntse thiab kav tau txhua thaj chaw lawv xav kav kom tau nawb mog.
Phoojywg Cawmsim,
Zoo siab ntau koj ua kwv/tij los nrog peb sib tham txog peb cov peb cov ua niamtxiv txoj kev xav thiab pom los ntawm peb tej menyuam nyob lub tebchaws vammeej nyobP rau tiam21 no.
Yog peb yuav muab txhua yam kawm coj los conclude/xam tag nrho uake lub tebchaws no yeej yog muaj ntau tsav ntau yam li koj hais los cob qhia menyuam tiag mas TIAMSIS peb cov ua Niam thiab ua Txiv ho yuav tau tig rov qab mus nug peb tuskheej tias YOG VIM LICAS PEB TEJ MENYUAM HO TSIS MLOOG LUS THIAB TSIS HWM NIAMTXIV THIAB TEEBMEEM YOG MUAJ RAU YUAV LUAG TXHUA YIM NEEG. Kuv tsis piav lwm tus, cia kuv piav kuv tsevneeg nkaus xwb. Kuv muaj 6 tug menyuam, 2 leeg tub 4 leeg ntxhais thiab hnub nyoog 18-28 hos muaj ib tug yuav vauv lawm. 6 tug menyuam no 5 tug kawm tag 4 xyoos, muaj 3 tug tau haujlwm khov kho ua lawm hos ib tug li ces ua part time thiab rov mus kawm yuav nws daim master degree, 1 tug tseem niajhnub nyob xwb.
Kuv cov menyuam thaum lawv yau kawm ntawv grade 1 mus txog middle school lawv mloog lus kawg thiab ib txwm tsis mus xyaw neeg phem thiab mus haus yeeb tshuaj. Tiamsis tom qab no thaum lawv mus kawm 10-12 thiab mus rau college los txog lawv pauv kiag dua ua tus neeg tshiab. Qhov pauv ua neeg tshiab ntawd lawv tsis coj li koj xav thiab koj qhia kom paub hwm niam thiab txiv, hwm tej laus. Lawv coj txawv li yus Hmoob, lawv xav ua yam twg lawm koj cheem yeej tsis mloog, lawv tias lawv muaj 18 xyoo thiab paub tshaj yus lawm, yog koj hais ntau ces kawg sib cav npau taws lawm xwb. Lawv rov thuam/cem Hmoob tias Hmoob ruam, Hmoob coj li ub li no tsis zoo ( the Hmong people are acting things stupid) Tej yam lawv coj no txhais tau tias LAWV TSIS NCO QAB TXOG YUS LUB ZOG TU LAWV HLOB THIAB TXHAWB LAWV MUS KAWM TXAWJ, yam lawv ua yog SAIB TSIS TAUS LAWV TEJ NIAM THIAB TXIV uas lawv xav tias yus cov laus tsis muaj kev kawm txawj li lawv.
Cuag li yuav khav yus tej menyuam yus tseem cob tau mus kawm tiav 4 xyoo tiamsis thaum kawg kawm tiav los tseem coj txawv ua luaj li, yog tias lwm tus li tej menyuam uas twb kawm tsis tiav high school es mus ua Neeg phem nyob hauv txaj xwb ne lawv ho yauv zoo li cas? Kuv hnov peb tej Niamtxiv quaj ntsuag thiab lub kuamuag los tsis paub tu rau peb tej nyuam uas yog tag rau txoj kev ciasiab. Yog li no kuv thiaj hais tias peb tej menyuam tebchaws no tsuas yog vammeej rau txoj kev NRHIAV NOJ xwb TXHUA YAM poob tag nrho. Qhov loj tshaj yog los ntawm tej tsev kawm ntawv ntag yog cov COB QHIA kom menyuam phem thiaj li paub rov los ua phem rau Niam thiab txiv. Peb nyob ntuj qub qab tej tsev kawm ntawv yog qhov chaw COB QHIA menyuam kom tsimtxiaj kom saib Niam thiab Txiv zoo tam li lub NTUJ, saib tej tijlaug tej hlob yus zoo tam li NIAM THIAB TXIV, qhia kom txhob ua Tubsab tubnyiag thiab lwm yam zoo. Kuv tuskheej hais ncaj tias KUV TSIS QHUAS TXOJ KEV COBNEEG KOM PAUB SIB HLUB nyob tebchaws no, yam kuv qhuas lawv txoj kev qhia NEEG KHWV NOJ KHWV HAUS xwb.
Yog nej tsis ntseeg nej ho mus ua survey rau ib tsoom Hmoob seb lawv tej menyuam ho puas muaj tseeb li kuv tham. Raws li kuv pom yus tej txheebze thiab hnov kwvtij Hmoob tham xwb ces peb tej laus tusiab nrho tias HMOOB LUB NEEJ FUTURE NYOB TXAWV TEBCHAWS YUAV PLOJ MUS THAUM DUA PEB TEJ LAUS TAG.
Cov tebchaws li koj hais lawv yeej vammeej tiag tiamsis yog sab nraud xwb hos koj saib ti ti hauv lawv lub cuab yimneeg 80 % yog cov uas tsis muaj neej ua. Yog li cas kuv hais li peb twb pom tias nyob tebchaws no tsuas yog li ntawm 20-25 percent tej niamtxiv thiab sib nyob thiab uake tag ib txhis xwb. Nej sim xav kev kub ntxhov nyob tebchaws yuav luag txhua nasthis/minute tsuas pom neeg sib tua thiab neeg ploj xwb.
Ua tsaug rau koj lub sijhawm los nrog peb sib pauv tswv8 os phoojywg. Yog muaj idea zoo thov share qhia peb seb ho yuav kho li cas tej menyuam thiaj li paub tig los mloog peb cov ua niam ua txiv.
Nyob zoo[/b]
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......Nyob zoo os?....Kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Koj piav tham muaj tseeb tias....Tsi dag li os?
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[quote="Liajntsuab"]Phoojywg Cawmsim,
Zoo siab ntau koj ua kwv/tij los nrog peb sib tham txog peb cov peb cov ua niamtxiv txoj kev xav thiab pom los ntawm peb tej menyuam nyob lub tebchaws vammeej nyobP rau tiam21 no.
Yog peb yuav muab txhua yam kawm coj los conclude/xam tag nrho uake lub tebchaws no yeej yog muaj ntau tsav ntau yam li koj hais los cob qhia menyuam tiag mas TIAMSIS peb cov ua Niam thiab ua Txiv ho yuav tau tig rov qab mus nug peb tuskheej tias YOG VIM LICAS PEB TEJ MENYUAM HO TSIS MLOOG LUS THIAB TSIS HWM NIAMTXIV THIAB TEEBMEEM YOG MUAJ RAU YUAV LUAG TXHUA YIM NEEG. Kuv tsis piav lwm tus, cia kuv piav kuv tsevneeg nkaus xwb. Kuv muaj 6 tug menyuam, 2 leeg tub 4 leeg ntxhais thiab hnub nyoog 18-28 hos muaj ib tug yuav vauv lawm. 6 tug menyuam no 5 tug kawm tag 4 xyoos, muaj 3 tug tau haujlwm khov kho ua lawm hos ib tug li ces ua part time thiab rov mus kawm yuav nws daim master degree, 1 tug tseem niajhnub nyob xwb.
Kuv cov menyuam thaum lawv yau kawm ntawv grade 1 mus txog middle school lawv mloog lus kawg thiab ib txwm tsis mus xyaw neeg phem thiab mus haus yeeb tshuaj. Tiamsis tom qab no thaum lawv mus kawm 10-12 thiab mus rau college los txog lawv pauv kiag dua ua tus neeg tshiab. Qhov pauv ua neeg tshiab ntawd lawv tsis coj li koj xav thiab koj qhia kom paub hwm niam thiab txiv, hwm tej laus. Lawv coj txawv li yus Hmoob, lawv xav ua yam twg lawm koj cheem yeej tsis mloog, lawv tias lawv muaj 18 xyoo thiab paub tshaj yus lawm, yog koj hais ntau ces kawg sib cav npau taws lawm xwb. Lawv rov thuam/cem Hmoob tias Hmoob ruam, Hmoob coj li ub li no tsis zoo ( the Hmong people are acting things stupid) Tej yam lawv coj no txhais tau tias LAWV TSIS NCO QAB TXOG YUS LUB ZOG TU LAWV HLOB THIAB TXHAWB LAWV MUS KAWM TXAWJ, yam lawv ua yog SAIB TSIS TAUS LAWV TEJ NIAM THIAB TXIV uas lawv xav tias yus cov laus tsis muaj kev kawm txawj li lawv.
Cuag li yuav khav yus tej menyuam yus tseem cob tau mus kawm tiav 4 xyoo tiamsis thaum kawg kawm tiav los tseem coj txawv ua luaj li, yog tias lwm tus li tej menyuam uas twb kawm tsis tiav high school es mus ua Neeg phem nyob hauv txaj xwb ne lawv ho yauv zoo li cas? Kuv hnov peb tej Niamtxiv quaj ntsuag thiab lub kuamuag los tsis paub tu rau peb tej nyuam uas yog tag rau txoj kev ciasiab. Yog li no kuv thiaj hais tias peb tej menyuam tebchaws no tsuas yog vammeej rau txoj kev NRHIAV NOJ xwb TXHUA YAM poob tag nrho. Qhov loj tshaj yog los ntawm tej tsev kawm ntawv ntag yog cov COB QHIA kom menyuam phem thiaj li paub rov los ua phem rau Niam thiab txiv. Peb nyob ntuj qub qab tej tsev kawm ntawv yog qhov chaw COB QHIA menyuam kom tsimtxiaj kom saib Niam thiab Txiv zoo tam li lub NTUJ, saib tej tijlaug tej hlob yus zoo tam li NIAM THIAB TXIV, qhia kom txhob ua Tubsab tubnyiag thiab lwm yam zoo. Kuv tuskheej hais ncaj tias KUV TSIS QHUAS TXOJ KEV COBNEEG KOM PAUB SIB HLUB nyob tebchaws no, yam kuv qhuas lawv txoj kev qhia NEEG KHWV NOJ KHWV HAUS xwb.
Yog nej tsis ntseeg nej ho mus ua survey rau ib tsoom Hmoob seb lawv tej menyuam ho puas muaj tseeb li kuv tham. Raws li kuv pom yus tej txheebze thiab hnov kwvtij Hmoob tham xwb ces peb tej laus tusiab nrho tias HMOOB LUB NEEJ FUTURE NYOB TXAWV TEBCHAWS YUAV PLOJ MUS THAUM DUA PEB TEJ LAUS TAG.
Cov tebchaws li koj hais lawv yeej vammeej tiag tiamsis yog sab nraud xwb hos koj saib ti ti hauv lawv lub cuab yimneeg 80 % yog cov uas tsis muaj neej ua. Yog li cas kuv hais li peb twb pom tias nyob tebchaws no tsuas yog li ntawm 20-25 percent tej niamtxiv thiab sib nyob thiab uake tag ib txhis xwb. Nej sim xav kev kub ntxhov nyob tebchaws yuav luag txhua nasthis/minute tsuas pom neeg sib tua thiab neeg ploj xwb.
Ua tsaug rau koj lub sijhawm los nrog peb sib pauv tswv8 os phoojywg. Yog muaj idea zoo thov share qhia peb seb ho yuav kho li cas tej menyuam thiaj li paub tig los mloog peb cov ua niam ua txiv.
Nyob zoo[/b]
Koj yeej hais raws kiag li muaj ntag, Phooj ywg.
Tab sis kuv cov lus hais txog Hmoob cov yog niam thiab txiv phaum laus tsis paub luag txoj cai "tus system cob qhia menyuam yog qhov tseem ceeb. Tej zaum peb tsuas pom cov neeg poob qab li peb Hmoob qhia menyuam xwb yom. Kev qhia kom menyuam tig rov los hwm niam thiab hwm txiv tag mus li mas kuj tsis yog tas tas lawm. Menyuam yuav hwm niam thiab txiv, nws yog kev coj characters ntawm niam thiab txiv coj li cas, qhia li cas lawm. Peb tsoom Hmoob kev qhia me nyuam yeej hais zoo kawg tsuas yog tsis tau yuav qhia tau kom peb cov menyuam txawj ntse li luag xwb. Ua ke ntawv, kev coj rau menyuam xyaum kiag los yeej zoo tsis txaus ne. Thaum tsob ntoo txi txiv ces ham tsis yeej zeeg tsis deb ntawm lub hauv paus ces yog li no.
Tus menyuam me li 3-4 xyoos xwb yog coj phem lawm. Luag tsis tau cem nawb. Luag coj mus zaum thiab kom nws ua zoo xav saib vim li cas nws thiaj ua tau li ntawv. nws zoo siab lawm luag thiaj mam nug tias "koj puas xav tias qhov koj ua dhau lawm zoo?". Luag cia sij hawm rau tus menyuam neeg no xav kom txaus yam nws tau ua thiab tau hais phem lawm. Luag mam li tshab txhais rau nws, thiab qhia nws tias yam nws ua ntawv tsis haum lwm tus, mob lwm tus lawm siv tsis tau rau kev nyob ua ke. Thaum cov menyuam loj lawm, luag muab sij hawm thiab tso kev rau tus menyuam no qhia kom tag yam nws ua tawm los phem/hais phem ntawv saib yog tim dab tsi. Puas yog tus menyuam no chim rau tus nws tau ua phem/hais phem rau LOS SIS vim nws yeej muaj kev chim lwm yam nyob lwm qhov chaw los lawm.
Thaum luag paub meej tias tus neeg ntawv chim siab yog tim dab tsi, luag mam li tshab qhia tias "koj yuav tsum hais kiag tawm thaum koj tsis nyiam nawb, thiab koj tsuas hais tau los sis ua tau rau tus nws tau ua rau koj chim xwb, koj tsis tsim nyog ua rau lwm tus. Kev muab sij hawm rau tus neeg muaj kev chim LOS SIS muaj kev txhaum tau xav kom txaus tias yog vim li cas nws ho txiav siab ua tau li nws ua no sais yeej tseem ceeb heev rau txhua tus neeg. Tej kev pib cob qhia neeg li no thiaj ua rau tus neeg ntawv xyaum xav, xyaum luj yam phem thiab yam zoo/qhov txhaum thiab qhov yog mam li ntxeev mus rau kev haumxeeb nawb.
Kuv yug me nyuam coob tus. Cov kuv cob li Hmoob cob mas paub tab thiab hwm kuv heev, mloog lus heev tiam sis ntse ntiav thiab tais caus ua tsis taus txiv. Nws tsis muaj peev xwm yuav sawv los tawm tsam niam thiab txiv kiag "txawm tias niam thiab txiv yuam cai lawm los nws kav liam". Cov kuv qhia raws neeg tsheej tshoj vammeej, lawv ntse tob dua, lawv siab tawv txaus vim lawv ntseeg tias yam lawv sawv los tawm tsam yeej yog tsis muaj kev ncaj ncees. Ntau zaus peb cov yog niam thiab txiv yuav tu siab rau lawv, tab sis yog peb pom txoj cai thiab peb yog neeg txawj ntse muaj kev ncaj ncees txaus. Peb yeej pom tias lawv coj yog thiab lawv tsis khav theeb.
Qhov lawv tig cem Hmoob ruam los yeej muaj feem tsim nyog cem kawg. Koj+kuv peb muab ua tib zoo luj kom meej saib kom tshab ces yeej pom kiag tias Hmoob tseem ruam tiga tiag laiv cov phooj ywg. Peb rov tig mus rau lub topic kiag no los tseem pom Hmoob ruam qees naj yuam..?
Ntawm tsoom niam thiab txiv Hmoob kiag, peb yeej poob qab deb heev txog txoj kev txawj ntse tiag tiag
Zoo siab ntau koj ua kwv/tij los nrog peb sib tham txog peb cov peb cov ua niamtxiv txoj kev xav thiab pom los ntawm peb tej menyuam nyob lub tebchaws vammeej nyobP rau tiam21 no.
Yog peb yuav muab txhua yam kawm coj los conclude/xam tag nrho uake lub tebchaws no yeej yog muaj ntau tsav ntau yam li koj hais los cob qhia menyuam tiag mas TIAMSIS peb cov ua Niam thiab ua Txiv ho yuav tau tig rov qab mus nug peb tuskheej tias YOG VIM LICAS PEB TEJ MENYUAM HO TSIS MLOOG LUS THIAB TSIS HWM NIAMTXIV THIAB TEEBMEEM YOG MUAJ RAU YUAV LUAG TXHUA YIM NEEG. Kuv tsis piav lwm tus, cia kuv piav kuv tsevneeg nkaus xwb. Kuv muaj 6 tug menyuam, 2 leeg tub 4 leeg ntxhais thiab hnub nyoog 18-28 hos muaj ib tug yuav vauv lawm. 6 tug menyuam no 5 tug kawm tag 4 xyoos, muaj 3 tug tau haujlwm khov kho ua lawm hos ib tug li ces ua part time thiab rov mus kawm yuav nws daim master degree, 1 tug tseem niajhnub nyob xwb.
Kuv cov menyuam thaum lawv yau kawm ntawv grade 1 mus txog middle school lawv mloog lus kawg thiab ib txwm tsis mus xyaw neeg phem thiab mus haus yeeb tshuaj. Tiamsis tom qab no thaum lawv mus kawm 10-12 thiab mus rau college los txog lawv pauv kiag dua ua tus neeg tshiab. Qhov pauv ua neeg tshiab ntawd lawv tsis coj li koj xav thiab koj qhia kom paub hwm niam thiab txiv, hwm tej laus. Lawv coj txawv li yus Hmoob, lawv xav ua yam twg lawm koj cheem yeej tsis mloog, lawv tias lawv muaj 18 xyoo thiab paub tshaj yus lawm, yog koj hais ntau ces kawg sib cav npau taws lawm xwb. Lawv rov thuam/cem Hmoob tias Hmoob ruam, Hmoob coj li ub li no tsis zoo ( the Hmong people are acting things stupid) Tej yam lawv coj no txhais tau tias LAWV TSIS NCO QAB TXOG YUS LUB ZOG TU LAWV HLOB THIAB TXHAWB LAWV MUS KAWM TXAWJ, yam lawv ua yog SAIB TSIS TAUS LAWV TEJ NIAM THIAB TXIV uas lawv xav tias yus cov laus tsis muaj kev kawm txawj li lawv.
Cuag li yuav khav yus tej menyuam yus tseem cob tau mus kawm tiav 4 xyoo tiamsis thaum kawg kawm tiav los tseem coj txawv ua luaj li, yog tias lwm tus li tej menyuam uas twb kawm tsis tiav high school es mus ua Neeg phem nyob hauv txaj xwb ne lawv ho yauv zoo li cas? Kuv hnov peb tej Niamtxiv quaj ntsuag thiab lub kuamuag los tsis paub tu rau peb tej nyuam uas yog tag rau txoj kev ciasiab. Yog li no kuv thiaj hais tias peb tej menyuam tebchaws no tsuas yog vammeej rau txoj kev NRHIAV NOJ xwb TXHUA YAM poob tag nrho. Qhov loj tshaj yog los ntawm tej tsev kawm ntawv ntag yog cov COB QHIA kom menyuam phem thiaj li paub rov los ua phem rau Niam thiab txiv. Peb nyob ntuj qub qab tej tsev kawm ntawv yog qhov chaw COB QHIA menyuam kom tsimtxiaj kom saib Niam thiab Txiv zoo tam li lub NTUJ, saib tej tijlaug tej hlob yus zoo tam li NIAM THIAB TXIV, qhia kom txhob ua Tubsab tubnyiag thiab lwm yam zoo. Kuv tuskheej hais ncaj tias KUV TSIS QHUAS TXOJ KEV COBNEEG KOM PAUB SIB HLUB nyob tebchaws no, yam kuv qhuas lawv txoj kev qhia NEEG KHWV NOJ KHWV HAUS xwb.
Yog nej tsis ntseeg nej ho mus ua survey rau ib tsoom Hmoob seb lawv tej menyuam ho puas muaj tseeb li kuv tham. Raws li kuv pom yus tej txheebze thiab hnov kwvtij Hmoob tham xwb ces peb tej laus tusiab nrho tias HMOOB LUB NEEJ FUTURE NYOB TXAWV TEBCHAWS YUAV PLOJ MUS THAUM DUA PEB TEJ LAUS TAG.
Cov tebchaws li koj hais lawv yeej vammeej tiag tiamsis yog sab nraud xwb hos koj saib ti ti hauv lawv lub cuab yimneeg 80 % yog cov uas tsis muaj neej ua. Yog li cas kuv hais li peb twb pom tias nyob tebchaws no tsuas yog li ntawm 20-25 percent tej niamtxiv thiab sib nyob thiab uake tag ib txhis xwb. Nej sim xav kev kub ntxhov nyob tebchaws yuav luag txhua nasthis/minute tsuas pom neeg sib tua thiab neeg ploj xwb.
Ua tsaug rau koj lub sijhawm los nrog peb sib pauv tswv8 os phoojywg. Yog muaj idea zoo thov share qhia peb seb ho yuav kho li cas tej menyuam thiaj li paub tig los mloog peb cov ua niam ua txiv.
Nyob zoo[/b]
Koj yeej hais raws kiag li muaj ntag, Phooj ywg.
Tab sis kuv cov lus hais txog Hmoob cov yog niam thiab txiv phaum laus tsis paub luag txoj cai "tus system cob qhia menyuam yog qhov tseem ceeb. Tej zaum peb tsuas pom cov neeg poob qab li peb Hmoob qhia menyuam xwb yom. Kev qhia kom menyuam tig rov los hwm niam thiab hwm txiv tag mus li mas kuj tsis yog tas tas lawm. Menyuam yuav hwm niam thiab txiv, nws yog kev coj characters ntawm niam thiab txiv coj li cas, qhia li cas lawm. Peb tsoom Hmoob kev qhia me nyuam yeej hais zoo kawg tsuas yog tsis tau yuav qhia tau kom peb cov menyuam txawj ntse li luag xwb. Ua ke ntawv, kev coj rau menyuam xyaum kiag los yeej zoo tsis txaus ne. Thaum tsob ntoo txi txiv ces ham tsis yeej zeeg tsis deb ntawm lub hauv paus ces yog li no.
Tus menyuam me li 3-4 xyoos xwb yog coj phem lawm. Luag tsis tau cem nawb. Luag coj mus zaum thiab kom nws ua zoo xav saib vim li cas nws thiaj ua tau li ntawv. nws zoo siab lawm luag thiaj mam nug tias "koj puas xav tias qhov koj ua dhau lawm zoo?". Luag cia sij hawm rau tus menyuam neeg no xav kom txaus yam nws tau ua thiab tau hais phem lawm. Luag mam li tshab txhais rau nws, thiab qhia nws tias yam nws ua ntawv tsis haum lwm tus, mob lwm tus lawm siv tsis tau rau kev nyob ua ke. Thaum cov menyuam loj lawm, luag muab sij hawm thiab tso kev rau tus menyuam no qhia kom tag yam nws ua tawm los phem/hais phem ntawv saib yog tim dab tsi. Puas yog tus menyuam no chim rau tus nws tau ua phem/hais phem rau LOS SIS vim nws yeej muaj kev chim lwm yam nyob lwm qhov chaw los lawm.
Thaum luag paub meej tias tus neeg ntawv chim siab yog tim dab tsi, luag mam li tshab qhia tias "koj yuav tsum hais kiag tawm thaum koj tsis nyiam nawb, thiab koj tsuas hais tau los sis ua tau rau tus nws tau ua rau koj chim xwb, koj tsis tsim nyog ua rau lwm tus. Kev muab sij hawm rau tus neeg muaj kev chim LOS SIS muaj kev txhaum tau xav kom txaus tias yog vim li cas nws ho txiav siab ua tau li nws ua no sais yeej tseem ceeb heev rau txhua tus neeg. Tej kev pib cob qhia neeg li no thiaj ua rau tus neeg ntawv xyaum xav, xyaum luj yam phem thiab yam zoo/qhov txhaum thiab qhov yog mam li ntxeev mus rau kev haumxeeb nawb.
Kuv yug me nyuam coob tus. Cov kuv cob li Hmoob cob mas paub tab thiab hwm kuv heev, mloog lus heev tiam sis ntse ntiav thiab tais caus ua tsis taus txiv. Nws tsis muaj peev xwm yuav sawv los tawm tsam niam thiab txiv kiag "txawm tias niam thiab txiv yuam cai lawm los nws kav liam". Cov kuv qhia raws neeg tsheej tshoj vammeej, lawv ntse tob dua, lawv siab tawv txaus vim lawv ntseeg tias yam lawv sawv los tawm tsam yeej yog tsis muaj kev ncaj ncees. Ntau zaus peb cov yog niam thiab txiv yuav tu siab rau lawv, tab sis yog peb pom txoj cai thiab peb yog neeg txawj ntse muaj kev ncaj ncees txaus. Peb yeej pom tias lawv coj yog thiab lawv tsis khav theeb.
Qhov lawv tig cem Hmoob ruam los yeej muaj feem tsim nyog cem kawg. Koj+kuv peb muab ua tib zoo luj kom meej saib kom tshab ces yeej pom kiag tias Hmoob tseem ruam tiga tiag laiv cov phooj ywg. Peb rov tig mus rau lub topic kiag no los tseem pom Hmoob ruam qees naj yuam..?
Ntawm tsoom niam thiab txiv Hmoob kiag, peb yeej poob qab deb heev txog txoj kev txawj ntse tiag tiag
Liajntsuab- Sponsor
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Date d'inscription : 2011-12-04
Phoojywg Cawmsim,
Zoo siab ntau koj muab lub sijhawm muaj nujnqis los nrog tijlaug Xiongcha wb tham os nawb. Cia kuv muaj caij mam li rov tuaj nrog tham kev sib qhia cob menyuam kom dav tshaj no ntxiv.
Ua tsaug ntau koj lub sijhawm nawb tus zoo phoojywg.
Zoo siab ntau koj muab lub sijhawm muaj nujnqis los nrog tijlaug Xiongcha wb tham os nawb. Cia kuv muaj caij mam li rov tuaj nrog tham kev sib qhia cob menyuam kom dav tshaj no ntxiv.
Ua tsaug ntau koj lub sijhawm nawb tus zoo phoojywg.
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xiongchang wrote:......Nyob zoo os?....Kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Koj piav tham muaj tseeb tias....Tsi dag li os?
Tijlaug aw!!!! Hlwb ua kua tag li lawm os tos paub tham na hehehe.
xiongchang- Moderator
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......Nyob zoo os?....Kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Yeej muaj tseeb kawg os?....Tog hais tias....Niam txiv mob hlwb mob....[Stroke]....Tim tub ntxhais....Tsi noj lug - Tsi mloog niam txiv qhuab qhia....Yug hais zoo....Tub ntxhais ywg dawg dom tias....Niam txiv ruam...."Tab sis"....Tsi paub tias?....Xyov tug twg?....Yog tug ruam lawm os?....Qhov kuvua tij mob....[Stroke]....Ob zaug tej teeb meem no ntag os?....Kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Lub sij hawm....Kuv nyob xeev....[Michigan]....Kwm foom nkawd....Khub niam txiv mob....[Stroke]....Tuag tas lawm....Vim tub ntxhais ntag os?....Thiab coo tug os?....Kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Tub mag nkuaj....[Jialled]....Ib tug twg?....62 Xyoos....Tej tub ntxhais teb chaws no....Tsi hwm niam....Tsi hawm txiv....Kuv ua tij....Kuv piav qhia ncaj nraim....Tsi zais lug....Hnub twg?....Tas kuv txoj sia....Txhob ntiav txiv coj xai tuaj foom....Tsi tau koob hmoov os?....Yuav tau koob hmoov....Xyaum zoo....Tsim txiaj ncus....Ua taug niam....Ua taug txiv....Muaj cuab kav....Kawm paub txhua yam....Muaj peev xwm....Kawm txawj txhua tsav ntawm lub neej mas....Mam ntiav txiv coj xai foom lug nyiaj....Tau lug kub os?....Kwvliaj ntsuab aws?....Kuv ua tij pom li no xwb tias?
xiongchang- Moderator
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.....Hmo qhua xwm....Txiv coj xai....Dov pob zeb....Pem ncov roob siab....Dhia tsaws paj....Tsaws poog nqeg hav xwb....Tub ntxhais....Puas muaj leej twg?....Txais tau mas yuam....]Nothing feature like zero]....Kuv tug kheej ntag laus?....Kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Kuv tsim txiaj taug....Txog ntua niaj hnub....{Tam sim no}....Kuv xyaum zoo....Thaum me nyuam tub me....Peb plaub xyoos lawm....Kuv tsim txiaj ncus....Thaum me nyuam tug yau....Plaub tsib xyoos lawm....Tug tub ntxhais twg?....Kawm ntawv qeg kawg nkaug....{Graduation College Bachelor}....Paub lub neej tom ntej....Nce pem suab os?....Tug tub ntxhais twg?....Kawm ntawv tas....[High School Diploma - Nothing feature like]....Paub ntawv me ntsis xwb os?....Txawj ntawv tsi kawg nas.
Kaubkimyaj- Developer
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Nyabxeeb, kwv Liajntsuab, lijlaug XiongChang, phoojywg Cawmsim thiab tsoom phoojywg.
Peb tham pem txog keebkwm ntawm haiv neeg Hmoob li nrimteb nrimchaw "qub ciam tebchaws", thiab peb ho luj Hmoob Tebchaws txoj haujlwm lawv xav tsa kom haiv neeg "HMOOB" rov ciaj tsheej haiv neeg muaj Tebchaws.
* Hmoob los yeej tsis txawv txhua nywjkeeb/txhua haiv neeg uas tau ciaj (EXISTING) nyob ntiajteb thaum chivpib los lawm. Keebpuamvim vis txog kev ciaj tebchaws ntawm Hmoob yeej muaj tseeb raws li Hmoob fajlem (dabneeg) hais sib qhia txheej dhau txheej, thiab lwm haiv neeg tau sau ua keebkwm tseg. Txhais meej tias "txhua txhua nywjkeeb haiv yeej muaj nyias nrimteb, nrimchaw/sawdaws thiaj tseem tshuav keeb+tshuav noob ciaj nyob rau ntiajteb niaj hnub no.
* Hmoob Tebchaws txoj haujlwm yuav tshwmsim tau yog thaum Hmoob feem coob nkagsiab txog kev tseemceeb ntawm kev ciaj haiv thiab muaj tebchaws ua lag tiagtaw hauv kev tsimthaij tsav kom Hmoob kev ua neej muaj kev vammeej rau Hmoob txhua tus. Hnub ntawv, Hmoob mam li kam tig los sib koom thiab nrhiav kev haumxeeb los sib pab txhawb-tsa kom Hmoob rov tsheej ib haiv neeg muaj tebchaws.
Qhov tseeb, nws tsis yog Hmoob xwb txawm yuav ua tau. Kev tsa kom Hmoob rov muaj tebchaws yuav tsum haub yaum kom tau tsoom neeg nywj haiv plam tebchaws+plam kev ciaj haiv li Hmoob los nrog Hmoob koom tes tsa sawv daws li txwmsim kev ciaj neeg/haiv. Thaum ntawv, Hmoob thiab tsoom neeg no thiaj muaj zog thiaj hwjchim txaus los nres xwmtxheej kev kaujnyem ntawm tsoom neeg ciaj haiv tamsimno, thiab sawv daws thiaj muaj suab ntau txaus tsimnyog ntiajteb tuamtoom haiv neeg loj tsaws txhua nywj keeb no teebmeem los kajdaws raws txwmsim+cai kev ciaj haiv.
Kuv txoj kev pom+kev xav txog lub neej haiv neeg Hmoob yuav rov ciaj tsheej tebchaws yeej mus tau, tab sis yuav tsis yooj yim li Hmoob Tebchaws niaj hnub qw tamsimno.
Peb tham pem txog keebkwm ntawm haiv neeg Hmoob li nrimteb nrimchaw "qub ciam tebchaws", thiab peb ho luj Hmoob Tebchaws txoj haujlwm lawv xav tsa kom haiv neeg "HMOOB" rov ciaj tsheej haiv neeg muaj Tebchaws.
* Hmoob los yeej tsis txawv txhua nywjkeeb/txhua haiv neeg uas tau ciaj (EXISTING) nyob ntiajteb thaum chivpib los lawm. Keebpuamvim vis txog kev ciaj tebchaws ntawm Hmoob yeej muaj tseeb raws li Hmoob fajlem (dabneeg) hais sib qhia txheej dhau txheej, thiab lwm haiv neeg tau sau ua keebkwm tseg. Txhais meej tias "txhua txhua nywjkeeb haiv yeej muaj nyias nrimteb, nrimchaw/sawdaws thiaj tseem tshuav keeb+tshuav noob ciaj nyob rau ntiajteb niaj hnub no.
* Hmoob Tebchaws txoj haujlwm yuav tshwmsim tau yog thaum Hmoob feem coob nkagsiab txog kev tseemceeb ntawm kev ciaj haiv thiab muaj tebchaws ua lag tiagtaw hauv kev tsimthaij tsav kom Hmoob kev ua neej muaj kev vammeej rau Hmoob txhua tus. Hnub ntawv, Hmoob mam li kam tig los sib koom thiab nrhiav kev haumxeeb los sib pab txhawb-tsa kom Hmoob rov tsheej ib haiv neeg muaj tebchaws.
Qhov tseeb, nws tsis yog Hmoob xwb txawm yuav ua tau. Kev tsa kom Hmoob rov muaj tebchaws yuav tsum haub yaum kom tau tsoom neeg nywj haiv plam tebchaws+plam kev ciaj haiv li Hmoob los nrog Hmoob koom tes tsa sawv daws li txwmsim kev ciaj neeg/haiv. Thaum ntawv, Hmoob thiab tsoom neeg no thiaj muaj zog thiaj hwjchim txaus los nres xwmtxheej kev kaujnyem ntawm tsoom neeg ciaj haiv tamsimno, thiab sawv daws thiaj muaj suab ntau txaus tsimnyog ntiajteb tuamtoom haiv neeg loj tsaws txhua nywj keeb no teebmeem los kajdaws raws txwmsim+cai kev ciaj haiv.
Kuv txoj kev pom+kev xav txog lub neej haiv neeg Hmoob yuav rov ciaj tsheej tebchaws yeej mus tau, tab sis yuav tsis yooj yim li Hmoob Tebchaws niaj hnub qw tamsimno.
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Nyob zoo tijlaug Kaubkimyaj,
Nyob licas lawm xwb? Ntuj aw!!!! ua neej nyob ua cas lub sijhawm yuav mus ceev ua luaj li tos nco twb yog lub 4 hli nrab lawm thiab ces ib ntsis twb rov txog July 4th. Khwv tiagx li tsis xyeej lub sijhawm los uasi ntau thiaj tsis tau los teb koj ua tij os.
Muaj tseeb li koj hais mas tilaug!!! txhua yam ua ntej yuav ua ib yam dabtsi tseemceeb tshaj plaws nyob li Hmoob Tebchaws txoj kev npausuav zaum no yuav tsum yog li Nplog zaj lus pajhuam hais tias" KEV KOOM TES NYOB QHOV TWG CES KEV RUAJ NTSEG NYOB QHOV NTAWD". Ua ib haivneeg nyob yog tsis muaj kev KOOM TES ces txhua yam yua ntshaw thiab yus xav tau yuav tsis muaj kev tshwmsim tawm los.
Nyob li H.T. txoj haujlwm zaum no nws yog ib qhov uas ua rau Tsoomhmoob totaub NYUAB HEEV vim tias ua txawv tshaj li luag lwm haivneeg ib txwm ua dhau los lawm yog li thiaj ua rau Hmoob feem coob tsis totaub thiab tseem tsa pobntseg mloog seb lawv ua dabtsi tiag xwb. Yog muaj ib hnub twg zoo li lub ROOJ VAG uas yog Hmoob Tebchaws qhib tau kiag lawm ces kuv ntseeg tias 95 percent yeej yuav txhawb lawv lub zog vim tias Hmoob txomnyem txaus nkaus lawm os.
Nyob licas lawm xwb? Ntuj aw!!!! ua neej nyob ua cas lub sijhawm yuav mus ceev ua luaj li tos nco twb yog lub 4 hli nrab lawm thiab ces ib ntsis twb rov txog July 4th. Khwv tiagx li tsis xyeej lub sijhawm los uasi ntau thiaj tsis tau los teb koj ua tij os.
Muaj tseeb li koj hais mas tilaug!!! txhua yam ua ntej yuav ua ib yam dabtsi tseemceeb tshaj plaws nyob li Hmoob Tebchaws txoj kev npausuav zaum no yuav tsum yog li Nplog zaj lus pajhuam hais tias" KEV KOOM TES NYOB QHOV TWG CES KEV RUAJ NTSEG NYOB QHOV NTAWD". Ua ib haivneeg nyob yog tsis muaj kev KOOM TES ces txhua yam yua ntshaw thiab yus xav tau yuav tsis muaj kev tshwmsim tawm los.
Nyob li H.T. txoj haujlwm zaum no nws yog ib qhov uas ua rau Tsoomhmoob totaub NYUAB HEEV vim tias ua txawv tshaj li luag lwm haivneeg ib txwm ua dhau los lawm yog li thiaj ua rau Hmoob feem coob tsis totaub thiab tseem tsa pobntseg mloog seb lawv ua dabtsi tiag xwb. Yog muaj ib hnub twg zoo li lub ROOJ VAG uas yog Hmoob Tebchaws qhib tau kiag lawm ces kuv ntseeg tias 95 percent yeej yuav txhawb lawv lub zog vim tias Hmoob txomnyem txaus nkaus lawm os.
xiongchang- Moderator
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......Nyob zoo os?....Kwv liaj ntsuab os?....Tsoom phooj ywg!....Nkauj muam hoob....Hlub hmov tshua suav daws aws?....Kuvyuav piav zaj dab neeg no....Suav daws nyeem....Nco ntsoov tias?....Sij hawm luv....Txav zuj zug....Caij nyoog tsawg....Txav tshuj tshaws....Cheem tsi tau nres....Yam tug dej....Txhawv pem ncov roob siab....Ntwg nqeg hav....Tshuam hiav txwv ntuj....Nco ntsoov tias?....Dej tsi tseev ntwg nce toj....Ib zaug li os?....Yav ntuj thaum ntawd....Kuv kawm ntawv....{Grade: 3....Xyoo 1966 - 1967....Yawg tij laug yeej paj tsab....Muaj ob tug muam zoo nkauj kawg li....Nrog kuv tug kheej no....KUv tug phooj ywg!.... kawm ntawv ua ke....Saturday And Sunday....Kuv tug kheej no....Phooj ywg!....Yaj foom wb Kawm ntawv ua ke....Tib chav ntag...Wb nyiam nkawd.
......Wb niaj hnub tham ua si....Tom tsev khw nroog looj ceeb....Yawg tij laug yeej paj tsab....Hais li no....Ob tug kwv ntxawg....Yog neb nyiam....Kuv ob tug muam tias....Tuaj tham nawb mog....Kuv muaj nyiaj ntau...Plaub thawv nyiaj ntawv....400,000,000 kips...Peb thawv nyiaj choj keev Peb puas choj nyiaj keev....Ntaus nqis....3,00,000,000 kips.....Kuv tug yeej no....Pluag tsi taug lawm....Yog hhub twg?....Dej zaj....Nam ngeum....Tsi teev ntwg nce toj....Kuv pluag tsi taug....Ib zaug li os?....Yog hnub twg?....Dej zaj....Nam Nyeum....Teev ntwg nce toj lawm....Kuv mam pluag ua zog os?....Tsi muaj tsawg xyoo....Tom qab no....Yawg muag lej....Nyiaj poob tas nrho....Tsi tshuav li....Yawg thov....{Father Major General Vang pao}....Pab yawg them laiv?....Yawg ua siab....Khiav tawm ncaim nroog looj ceeb....Ua teb zaub kab muag....Lub zog....{Nam Chiang}....Ntag laus kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Kuv tsem nco ntsoov txog....Niaj hnub....am sim no....Luag tej laug....Thiaj piv ntuj nrag lug tias....Xyov zoov....Yuav ntsuab ntsuj twg?....Dej yuav ntwg....Tog ntuj twg?....Tsi pub li os?
......Wb niaj hnub tham ua si....Tom tsev khw nroog looj ceeb....Yawg tij laug yeej paj tsab....Hais li no....Ob tug kwv ntxawg....Yog neb nyiam....Kuv ob tug muam tias....Tuaj tham nawb mog....Kuv muaj nyiaj ntau...Plaub thawv nyiaj ntawv....400,000,000 kips...Peb thawv nyiaj choj keev Peb puas choj nyiaj keev....Ntaus nqis....3,00,000,000 kips.....Kuv tug yeej no....Pluag tsi taug lawm....Yog hhub twg?....Dej zaj....Nam ngeum....Tsi teev ntwg nce toj....Kuv pluag tsi taug....Ib zaug li os?....Yog hnub twg?....Dej zaj....Nam Nyeum....Teev ntwg nce toj lawm....Kuv mam pluag ua zog os?....Tsi muaj tsawg xyoo....Tom qab no....Yawg muag lej....Nyiaj poob tas nrho....Tsi tshuav li....Yawg thov....{Father Major General Vang pao}....Pab yawg them laiv?....Yawg ua siab....Khiav tawm ncaim nroog looj ceeb....Ua teb zaub kab muag....Lub zog....{Nam Chiang}....Ntag laus kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Kuv tsem nco ntsoov txog....Niaj hnub....am sim no....Luag tej laug....Thiaj piv ntuj nrag lug tias....Xyov zoov....Yuav ntsuab ntsuj twg?....Dej yuav ntwg....Tog ntuj twg?....Tsi pub li os?
Liajntsuab- Sponsor
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Tijlaug Xiiongcha,
Yog koj piav txog Yeej Paj Tsab cov dabneeg mas kuv los paub ntau txog Yawg tej Dabneeg thiab. Peb los nyob Lav 52 xyoo 1977, los nyob ze tim Yawg lub thaj teb liaj. Kuv niajhnub pom Yawg, Yawg yog hom neeg ntsejmuag liab, ntsejmuag dav, qhovmuag liab thiab pobmuag o tsem tsawv ho pheej nyiam hnav lub ris Hmoob nqws ze pem hauvcaug thiab nqa rab txuas nrog nws mus liaj mus teb. Nws muaj ib tus txiv Twm Dawb hu ua npam Xab no. Yawg yog ib tug hais lus nrov, coj txawv dua lwm tus txivneej Hmoob. Yawg mas nyiam cov lus sib daj sib deev heev li thiab luag nrov nrov kawg. Muaj ib zaug kuv tseem nco tau peb tuaj muag dib tim khw 52 thaum sawv ntxov ces Yawg yuav tau 1 yav nyhuv ntxwm ntev yuav luag li ib txhais npab. Ua ntej Yawg yuav noj ces Yawg qw nrov tsoom neeg tuaj hauv khw coob txog 300-400 leej kom lawv saib nws noj nyhuv no ces Yawg mam li plim pliaj thiab muab yav nyhuv ntawd nqa siab siab maj mam ntsaws qhovncauj noj ib tog zus tuaj tsis tshem li kom tag nrho. Hos zaum 2 ces yog pom yawg nqa ib daim pobtxha nplooj pu nyuj los xyov yog twm loj heev uas yog muab hau siav lawm ces ua nkaus li kuv hais yawg noj yav hnyuv thiab mam li noj rau neeg ntsia.
Yawg lub neej muaj Niam Hlob thiab Niam Yau thiab ua lub neej yeej zoo nyob xws teb xws chaw tiamsis vim yog txoj kev plhom moj, kev dag, nyiam kev hais lus tsiaj thaum kawg pojniam khiav taq lub neej thiaj li los xaus nyob hauv St. Paul, MN xyoo 1992, kuv txiv wb tseem tau mus saib thiab. Kuj yog ib qhov pab tusiab kawg. Lub sijhawm peb los nyob tim 52 Nplog ntshai yawg kawg thiab os koj. Yawg muaj 2-3 tug tub kuv tsis paub thaum loj seb ho zoo li cas tiamsis thaum yau lawv yeej coj txawv kawg li thiab. Dabneeg ntawm Yeej mas muaj ntau thiab muaj qee txoj tsis zoo tham hauv no vim txawv heev os
Yog koj piav txog Yeej Paj Tsab cov dabneeg mas kuv los paub ntau txog Yawg tej Dabneeg thiab. Peb los nyob Lav 52 xyoo 1977, los nyob ze tim Yawg lub thaj teb liaj. Kuv niajhnub pom Yawg, Yawg yog hom neeg ntsejmuag liab, ntsejmuag dav, qhovmuag liab thiab pobmuag o tsem tsawv ho pheej nyiam hnav lub ris Hmoob nqws ze pem hauvcaug thiab nqa rab txuas nrog nws mus liaj mus teb. Nws muaj ib tus txiv Twm Dawb hu ua npam Xab no. Yawg yog ib tug hais lus nrov, coj txawv dua lwm tus txivneej Hmoob. Yawg mas nyiam cov lus sib daj sib deev heev li thiab luag nrov nrov kawg. Muaj ib zaug kuv tseem nco tau peb tuaj muag dib tim khw 52 thaum sawv ntxov ces Yawg yuav tau 1 yav nyhuv ntxwm ntev yuav luag li ib txhais npab. Ua ntej Yawg yuav noj ces Yawg qw nrov tsoom neeg tuaj hauv khw coob txog 300-400 leej kom lawv saib nws noj nyhuv no ces Yawg mam li plim pliaj thiab muab yav nyhuv ntawd nqa siab siab maj mam ntsaws qhovncauj noj ib tog zus tuaj tsis tshem li kom tag nrho. Hos zaum 2 ces yog pom yawg nqa ib daim pobtxha nplooj pu nyuj los xyov yog twm loj heev uas yog muab hau siav lawm ces ua nkaus li kuv hais yawg noj yav hnyuv thiab mam li noj rau neeg ntsia.
Yawg lub neej muaj Niam Hlob thiab Niam Yau thiab ua lub neej yeej zoo nyob xws teb xws chaw tiamsis vim yog txoj kev plhom moj, kev dag, nyiam kev hais lus tsiaj thaum kawg pojniam khiav taq lub neej thiaj li los xaus nyob hauv St. Paul, MN xyoo 1992, kuv txiv wb tseem tau mus saib thiab. Kuj yog ib qhov pab tusiab kawg. Lub sijhawm peb los nyob tim 52 Nplog ntshai yawg kawg thiab os koj. Yawg muaj 2-3 tug tub kuv tsis paub thaum loj seb ho zoo li cas tiamsis thaum yau lawv yeej coj txawv kawg li thiab. Dabneeg ntawm Yeej mas muaj ntau thiab muaj qee txoj tsis zoo tham hauv no vim txawv heev os
xiongchang- Moderator
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......Hab....hab.... ....Kwv liaj ntsuab aws?....Lub sij hawm....Kuv kawm ntawv....[Grade: 3....1966 - 1967....Yawg tseem coj hnub qub: 1...."Tab sis"...Yug saib yug....Lub npe nom....Tsi tsim txiaj ne....Muab hnub qub: 1....Dai pawj qaws....Thiaj poob fwj chim tas....Nyiam ais lug dev - Txuam lug npua tas li os?....Poj niam khiav nrauj....Yeej tas lawm ne.
Liajntsuab- Sponsor
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Cawmsim wrote:Liajntsuab wrote:Phoojywg Cawmsim,
Zoo siab ntau koj ua kwv/tij los nrog peb sib tham txog peb cov peb cov ua niamtxiv txoj kev xav thiab pom los ntawm peb tej menyuam nyob lub tebchaws vammeej nyobP rau tiam21 no.
Yog peb yuav muab txhua yam kawm coj los conclude/xam tag nrho uake lub tebchaws no yeej yog muaj ntau tsav ntau yam li koj hais los cob qhia menyuam tiag mas TIAMSIS peb cov ua Niam thiab ua Txiv ho yuav tau tig rov qab mus nug peb tuskheej tias YOG VIM LICAS PEB TEJ MENYUAM HO TSIS MLOOG LUS THIAB TSIS HWM NIAMTXIV THIAB TEEBMEEM YOG MUAJ RAU YUAV LUAG TXHUA YIM NEEG. Kuv tsis piav lwm tus, cia kuv piav kuv tsevneeg nkaus xwb. Kuv muaj 6 tug menyuam, 2 leeg tub 4 leeg ntxhais thiab hnub nyoog 18-28 hos muaj ib tug yuav vauv lawm. 6 tug menyuam no 5 tug kawm tag 4 xyoos, muaj 3 tug tau haujlwm khov kho ua lawm hos ib tug li ces ua part time thiab rov mus kawm yuav nws daim master degree, 1 tug tseem niajhnub nyob xwb.
Kuv cov menyuam thaum lawv yau kawm ntawv grade 1 mus txog middle school lawv mloog lus kawg thiab ib txwm tsis mus xyaw neeg phem thiab mus haus yeeb tshuaj. Tiamsis tom qab no thaum lawv mus kawm 10-12 thiab mus rau college los txog lawv pauv kiag dua ua tus neeg tshiab. Qhov pauv ua neeg tshiab ntawd lawv tsis coj li koj xav thiab koj qhia kom paub hwm niam thiab txiv, hwm tej laus. Lawv coj txawv li yus Hmoob, lawv xav ua yam twg lawm koj cheem yeej tsis mloog, lawv tias lawv muaj 18 xyoo thiab paub tshaj yus lawm, yog koj hais ntau ces kawg sib cav npau taws lawm xwb. Lawv rov thuam/cem Hmoob tias Hmoob ruam, Hmoob coj li ub li no tsis zoo ( the Hmong people are acting things stupid) Tej yam lawv coj no txhais tau tias LAWV TSIS NCO QAB TXOG YUS LUB ZOG TU LAWV HLOB THIAB TXHAWB LAWV MUS KAWM TXAWJ, yam lawv ua yog SAIB TSIS TAUS LAWV TEJ NIAM THIAB TXIV uas lawv xav tias yus cov laus tsis muaj kev kawm txawj li lawv.
Cuag li yuav khav yus tej menyuam yus tseem cob tau mus kawm tiav 4 xyoo tiamsis thaum kawg kawm tiav los tseem coj txawv ua luaj li, yog tias lwm tus li tej menyuam uas twb kawm tsis tiav high school es mus ua Neeg phem nyob hauv txaj xwb ne lawv ho yauv zoo li cas? Kuv hnov peb tej Niamtxiv quaj ntsuag thiab lub kuamuag los tsis paub tu rau peb tej nyuam uas yog tag rau txoj kev ciasiab. Yog li no kuv thiaj hais tias peb tej menyuam tebchaws no tsuas yog vammeej rau txoj kev NRHIAV NOJ xwb TXHUA YAM poob tag nrho. Qhov loj tshaj yog los ntawm tej tsev kawm ntawv ntag yog cov COB QHIA kom menyuam phem thiaj li paub rov los ua phem rau Niam thiab txiv. Peb nyob ntuj qub qab tej tsev kawm ntawv yog qhov chaw COB QHIA menyuam kom tsimtxiaj kom saib Niam thiab Txiv zoo tam li lub NTUJ, saib tej tijlaug tej hlob yus zoo tam li NIAM THIAB TXIV, qhia kom txhob ua Tubsab tubnyiag thiab lwm yam zoo. Kuv tuskheej hais ncaj tias KUV TSIS QHUAS TXOJ KEV COBNEEG KOM PAUB SIB HLUB nyob tebchaws no, yam kuv qhuas lawv txoj kev qhia NEEG KHWV NOJ KHWV HAUS xwb.
Yog nej tsis ntseeg nej ho mus ua survey rau ib tsoom Hmoob seb lawv tej menyuam ho puas muaj tseeb li kuv tham. Raws li kuv pom yus tej txheebze thiab hnov kwvtij Hmoob tham xwb ces peb tej laus tusiab nrho tias HMOOB LUB NEEJ FUTURE NYOB TXAWV TEBCHAWS YUAV PLOJ MUS THAUM DUA PEB TEJ LAUS TAG.
Cov tebchaws li koj hais lawv yeej vammeej tiag tiamsis yog sab nraud xwb hos koj saib ti ti hauv lawv lub cuab yimneeg 80 % yog cov uas tsis muaj neej ua. Yog li cas kuv hais li peb twb pom tias nyob tebchaws no tsuas yog li ntawm 20-25 percent tej niamtxiv thiab sib nyob thiab uake tag ib txhis xwb. Nej sim xav kev kub ntxhov nyob tebchaws yuav luag txhua nasthis/minute tsuas pom neeg sib tua thiab neeg ploj xwb.
Ua tsaug rau koj lub sijhawm los nrog peb sib pauv tswv8 os phoojywg. Yog muaj idea zoo thov share qhia peb seb ho yuav kho li cas tej menyuam thiaj li paub tig los mloog peb cov ua niam ua txiv.
Nyob zoo[/b]
Koj yeej hais raws kiag li muaj ntag, Phooj ywg.
Tab sis kuv cov lus hais txog Hmoob cov yog niam thiab txiv phaum laus tsis paub luag txoj cai "tus system cob qhia menyuam yog qhov tseem ceeb. Tej zaum peb tsuas pom cov neeg poob qab li peb Hmoob qhia menyuam xwb yom. Kev qhia kom menyuam tig rov los hwm niam thiab hwm txiv tag mus li mas kuj tsis yog tas tas lawm. Menyuam yuav hwm niam thiab txiv, nws yog kev coj characters ntawm niam thiab txiv coj li cas, qhia li cas lawm. Peb tsoom Hmoob kev qhia me nyuam yeej hais zoo kawg tsuas yog tsis tau yuav qhia tau kom peb cov menyuam txawj ntse li luag xwb. Ua ke ntawv, kev coj rau menyuam xyaum kiag los yeej zoo tsis txaus ne. Thaum tsob ntoo txi txiv ces ham tsis yeej zeeg tsis deb ntawm lub hauv paus ces yog li no.
Tus menyuam me li 3-4 xyoos xwb yog coj phem lawm. Luag tsis tau cem nawb. Luag coj mus zaum thiab kom nws ua zoo xav saib vim li cas nws thiaj ua tau li ntawv. nws zoo siab lawm luag thiaj mam nug tias "koj puas xav tias qhov koj ua dhau lawm zoo?". Luag cia sij hawm rau tus menyuam neeg no xav kom txaus yam nws tau ua thiab tau hais phem lawm. Luag mam li tshab txhais rau nws, thiab qhia nws tias yam nws ua ntawv tsis haum lwm tus, mob lwm tus lawm siv tsis tau rau kev nyob ua ke. Thaum cov menyuam loj lawm, luag muab sij hawm thiab tso kev rau tus menyuam no qhia kom tag yam nws ua tawm los phem/hais phem ntawv saib yog tim dab tsi. Puas yog tus menyuam no chim rau tus nws tau ua phem/hais phem rau LOS SIS vim nws yeej muaj kev chim lwm yam nyob lwm qhov chaw los lawm.
Thaum luag paub meej tias tus neeg ntawv chim siab yog tim dab tsi, luag mam li tshab qhia tias "koj yuav tsum hais kiag tawm thaum koj tsis nyiam nawb, thiab koj tsuas hais tau los sis ua tau rau tus nws tau ua rau koj chim xwb, koj tsis tsim nyog ua rau lwm tus. Kev muab sij hawm rau tus neeg muaj kev chim LOS SIS muaj kev txhaum tau xav kom txaus tias yog vim li cas nws ho txiav siab ua tau li nws ua no sais yeej tseem ceeb heev rau txhua tus neeg. Tej kev pib cob qhia neeg li no thiaj ua rau tus neeg ntawv xyaum xav, xyaum luj yam phem thiab yam zoo/qhov txhaum thiab qhov yog mam li ntxeev mus rau kev haumxeeb nawb.
Kuv yug me nyuam coob tus. Cov kuv cob li Hmoob cob mas paub tab thiab hwm kuv heev, mloog lus heev tiam sis ntse ntiav thiab tais caus ua tsis taus txiv. Nws tsis muaj peev xwm yuav sawv los tawm tsam niam thiab txiv kiag "txawm tias niam thiab txiv yuam cai lawm los nws kav liam". Cov kuv qhia raws neeg tsheej tshoj vammeej, lawv ntse tob dua, lawv siab tawv txaus vim lawv ntseeg tias yam lawv sawv los tawm tsam yeej yog tsis muaj kev ncaj ncees. Ntau zaus peb cov yog niam thiab txiv yuav tu siab rau lawv, tab sis yog peb pom txoj cai thiab peb yog neeg txawj ntse muaj kev ncaj ncees txaus. Peb yeej pom tias lawv coj yog thiab lawv tsis khav theeb.
Qhov lawv tig cem Hmoob ruam los yeej muaj feem tsim nyog cem kawg. Koj+kuv peb muab ua tib zoo luj kom meej saib kom tshab ces yeej pom kiag tias Hmoob tseem ruam tiga tiag laiv cov phooj ywg. Peb rov tig mus rau lub topic kiag no los tseem pom Hmoob ruam qees naj yuam..?
Ntawm tsoom niam thiab txiv Hmoob kiag, peb yeej poob qab deb heev txog txoj kev txawj ntse tiag tiag
Nyob zoo phoojywg Cawmsim,
Tseg tau ntau hnub tsis xyeej tuaj uasi thiab tsis muaj sijhawm ntau los teb koj tus ua phoojywg cov lus. Hnub no kuv los teb koj cov lus me ntsis. Ua tsaug ntau nawb koj cov lus qhia txog kev ntuas menyuam nyob lub tebchaws no yeej yog kawg lawm. Luag cov neeg txawj ntse luag yeej cob menyuam li ntawd tsis yog yuam caim li peb Hmoob ntau feem ntau uas yus pom los.
Kuv tuskheej qhia rau nej tias txoj kev cob menyuam tebchaws no ces kuv TSA CHIJ lawm os phoojywg. Qhov kuv tsa chij ntawd vim tias kev qhuab qhia ces kuv yeej qhia li Hmoob qhia thiab qhia ib nrab li koj hais ntawd thiab rub lub siab ntev tas los ntev dua qhia tam li yus yog Niam yog txiv. Peb phaum nrab no tau tuaj pom luag kev cob menyuam li cas TIAMSIS qhov loj tshaj kuv pom ntawd mas yus tej menyuam ua li hais lawv tsis yog KAWM NTAWM YUS XWB, lawv mus kawm ntawm lawv tej phoojywg, hauv TV, internet thiab lwm qhov los. Txheej menyuam nimno lawv xyaum dag, lawv zais siab, lawv ntseeg tus sab nraud ntau tshaj li lawv ntseeg yus lawm. Peb txheej laus no yog yam peb ua yuam kev tej laus hais ib zaug ces yus tseg ncua tsis ua yam ntawd ntxiv lawm os tiamsis peb tej menyuam ces hais sab no tshwm sab tod yog yam lawv xav ua lawm. Kuv tuskheej sim muaj sim txaus thiab kawm txaus peb tej menyuam lawm. Txheej menyuam nimno lawv tsis paub nco txiaj nco ntsig, tsis ntshai khaum. Lawv muab lawv hom neeg saib qis dua li lwm haivneeg yog li lawv thiaj li muab yus tej lus Hmoob thiab kev coj tso tseg mus hais luag lus thiab xyaum mus coj li luag ntau lawm. Yog li peb tej Niam tej txiv thiab tag kev ciasiab li kuv hais rau koj dhau los lawm os phoojywg.
Kuv muab xav hais tias peb tej menyuam yog ib qhov tseemceeb rau lawv thiab peb nyob rau lub neej yav tom ntej (future). Ntshe peb yuav tau los tsa ib lub koomhaum tshwjxeeb/specialize los cob qhia nkaus xwb kom lawv totaub txog qhov sib txawv ntawm yus hom neeg thiab lwm haivneeg. Txoj kev coj li cas thiaj nyob taus nrog yus tsevneeg, tus sab nraud, thiab paub tsob hwm yus tuskheej lub neej. Peb tej menyuam kuv muab ntsia lawm zoo li lwm tus sab nraud los yog yus muab tej yam li kuv hais los ua lesson los yog sau ua zaj lus kawm kom muaj kws no ces lawv mloog me ntsis. Lub zeemmuag ntawm kuv pom ces yog li ntawd. Hos peb qhia xwb ces lawv hais tsis xav hnov, tsis xav mloog lawm os phoojywg.
Ua tsaug koj lub sijhawm los nrog kuv tham thiab nyob zoo koj nawb mam sib ntsib dua.
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